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To: annalex; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Kolokotronis; HarleyD; xzins; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; ...
"Do penance, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins: and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost".

Where do you get "Do Pennance" from metanoeō ?

5,463 posted on 01/12/2007 3:02:16 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Kolokotronis; HarleyD; xzins; blue-duncan
Literally, metanoesate is "reform yourself" or even "reform your mind", but that is also the meaning of "repent". Is your objection to how "repent" became "do penance" or would you prefer something like "reform"? I will assume the former, as King James has "repent".

You are astute to notice, because indeed "do penance" (corresponding to St. Jerome's "penitentia agite") suggests doing something, while "repent" suggests thinking something, but not necessarily doing anything as the outcome of the thinking. This therefore goes to the heart of our chief difference: we think that faith is something that we do; you think that faith is something that you think.

The expression, metanoete. comes from St. John the Baptist. And this is what we notice about St. John the Baptist: he was a doer. He gave an example of metanoia. What was that example? One followed by Christian monks everywhere: solitude; fast, hair shirt. He most certainly was doing penance rather than sitting in his office wispering to himself, "I think I am going to change my mind..."


5,471 posted on 01/12/2007 3:43:49 PM PST by annalex
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