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To: annalex

I don't care what some man's painting says. I care what Scripture SAYS. God is one. Calling Mary the mother of GOD makes her the mother of the Father and the mother of the Spirit. Mother of Christ is fine, though Scripture calls her mother of Jesus and mother of my Lord. You can not use imprecise language with a term like this. Mother of God is imprecise. Mother of the God-man Jesus Christ might work - but Scripture, as usual, will suffice.


4,506 posted on 01/08/2007 5:01:13 PM PST by Blogger (In nullo gloriandum quando nostrum nihil sit- Cyprian)
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To: Blogger; annalex

"Calling Mary the mother of GOD makes her the mother of the Father and the mother of the Spirit. Mother of Christ is fine, though Scripture calls her mother of Jesus and mother of my Lord. You can not use imprecise language with a term like this. Mother of God is imprecise. Mother of the God-man Jesus Christ might work - but Scripture, as usual, will suffice."

I am astonished! After 4500+ posts, you still say that calling her Theotokos is imprecise?!!!!! As I thought we all agreed, at least those of us Christians who recite the Nicene Creed, unless one can call her Theotokos, one is either a Nestorian or an Arian. I can't tell from your statement if it is your Christology which is deficient or your Trinitarian theology or both.


4,514 posted on 01/08/2007 6:08:07 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Blogger
Calling Mary the mother of GOD makes her the mother of the Father and the mother of the Spirit

No it doesn't. Women give birth to persons. Many other things happened to Christ the person alone, e.g. crucifixion and resurrection. so the birth happened to Christ alone.

Mother of Christ is fine

It is fine; but if you call her Mother of Christ yet refuse to call her mother of God, you are denying the divinity of Christ. It was explained to you about a dosen times by know. It is nestorian.

I don't care what some man's painting says

And I care even less what Luther or Calvin said. You cite your authorities and I cite mine.

You suggested that people misunderstand the title and think that it makes Mary mother of the Father, etc. Well, your ignorance or indifference of iconography notwithstanding, the icon proves you wrong because it depicts every person of the Trinity separately and only Christ as a newborn.

4,548 posted on 01/08/2007 9:14:43 PM PST by annalex
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