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To: Kolokotronis
God promised to preserve His Word. If you wish to doubt that the Bible (in any version) didn't preserve God's Word, then that's you're prerogative.

Why are you Protestants so Rome centric?
We aren't. But a whole lot of folks on this thread are claiming that Rome is the be all and end all. I know the Greek Orthodox don't believe that. But talk to your Catholic friends.

As to the history lesson on the canon, I am well aware of how we got it. By faith, I believe God preserved His message to mankind in the current Canon. Can I point to a specific Bible verse that says "The books of the Bible shall be, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus...." No. But I can point you to several verses which indicate that God preserves his message to Man. If I pick up a Douay Rheims Bible or a KJV or an NIV, I find God's plan of salvation to mankind preserved in each and every one. Yes, there are some differences based upon translations and manuscripts used and approach to the text - but the essential message has remained. Again, it is by faith I believe - but my faith is not blind faith for I see it with my very eyes as well that God is true to His Word.
3,237 posted on 12/31/2006 11:08:34 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger; annalex; kosta50

"If I pick up a Douay Rheims Bible or a KJV or an NIV, I find God's plan of salvation to mankind preserved in each and every one. Yes, there are some differences based upon translations and manuscripts used and approach to the text - but the essential message has remained."

Perhaps you've read The Shepherd or the Gospel of Barnabas or the Epistles of Clement to the Corinthians. Do you think they too present God's plan for salvation? If not, why not?

I find it difficult to understand your explanation of your acceptance of the canon of the NT as decided by The Church as being a matter of Faith. Faith in whom? God? The Church? Both? Did God tell you this? Do you believe that the HS simply told the bishops what to do in a piecemeal fashion over nearly 400 years or was it like Mohammad having the words of the Evil One dictated to him by a demon masquerading as Gabriel? In fact, if the Holy Traditions these bishops held to are "non-scriptural" and thus worthy of Protestant disdain, did those Traditions come from demons? If they did, are you sure it wasn't the same demon or demons which lead them over 400 years to establish the canon of the NT?

Your faith argument simply doesn't hold up, Blogger. You believe the canon of the NT as you read it is the definitive canon because The Church said so 1700 years ago.


3,240 posted on 12/31/2006 11:25:29 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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