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To: Blogger
Well, as long as you deny that God the Word is not Who He is from all eternity, that is incorporeal among other attributes of His divinity, you are suggesting that God did change.

Your insistance that Mary is not the Mother of God but the "Mother of Jesus. Period" only adds insult to injury as you are now denying that Jesus is God and that she gave birth to God.

There is no anti-Protestant rant on my part. I just know a little bit better what I am dealing with. I have no desire to change your beliefs. You stated yours and I stated what the Church has taught all along.

You reject the Church and I reject Protestantism. Protestants obviously believe in an evolving and changing God and deny the divinity of Jesus by refusing to say He is God, and that Mary gave Birth to God.

You obviously believe that God the Word was changed by the Incarnation. These are not Christian beliefs, my friend. We do not share the same faith.

So, we stated what they are and we now need to part our ways because there is nothing more I care to hear from the Protestant side, save for those who wish to return to the Church.

3,183 posted on 12/30/2006 8:23:00 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; P-Marlowe; wmfights; Forest Keeper
A melodramatic Gymnast. That's a new twist.

And now that you have been asked to defend a clear contradiction in your statements (i.e., God was never flesh/there was a point where God took on flesh and became a human)you make a not only unfair characterization about what I have explicitly and carefully stated all along but you lie about it (unless of course, you have not read a word I've said throughout this thread, which based on your answers I do not believe to be the case) and take your marbles and go home.

You insist that I deny Jesus' divinity because I call Mary by the name that the Bible calls her. If so, since the Bible does NOT call her Mother of God, then the Bible must also be denying Jesus' divinity. Ludicrous!

Just to refresh your memory, here are some of my statements:

"Jesus was NOT half man half God; but, rather, He was all man all God 100% of each in one person. "http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1748533/posts?page=3158#3158

" There was a point within time where God the Word became God the Word Incarnate. Now, He sits at the right hand of the Father as the Incarnate God the Word. Fully glorified in His humanity and yet fully the unchanging God in His divinity. Two natures, separate and yet United in the one person of the Trinity." http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1748533/posts?page=3134#3134

"the 2nd person of the trinity was transformed into the God-Man? Not a costume. He BECAME one of us (while still retaining His divinity)."http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1748533/posts?page=3130#3130

"He physically became 100% man (while retaining His status as 100% God)."http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1748533/posts?page=3094#3094

"Reality is that Jesus was 100% God(eternally pre-existent) and 100% Human with Mary's blood running through His veins. "http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1748533/posts?page=3042#3042



Now there are more; but I think this is clear. I have been quite explicit in stating my believe that Jesus is/was/ever more shall be GOD, the 2nd person of the Trinity. 100% God. It is based upon my believe that God doesn't change that I reject the title Mother of God. God had no beginning. Therefore, He had no mother. Jesus as God did not for one second cease being God in order to incarnate in Mary's womb. He was, is, always will be unchanging God. Yet, He also became a human being. The human Jesus changed. He grew from a baby to adulthood. He ate, drank, slept, died. He was without Sin. And by some miraculous means that NO HUMAN BEING CAN EXPLAIN He managed to be One person, unified, 100% unchanging God and 100% man. He wasn't half God half man. He was fully both. The God nature within Him does not change - ever. The human nature, which included a physical body, is now glorified and reigning at the Right hand of the Father. Yet, the two natures are unified in one person. I can't be more explicit.
3,184 posted on 12/30/2006 8:53:17 PM PST by Blogger
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