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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; adiaireton8; Kolokotronis; Blogger; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; ...
I can't believe you are taking things out of context.

I didn't. And your explanation doesn't help. In any context the phrase, "God the Word has no flesh, no form, nor shape, no humanity" is heretical.

Perhaps you have a problem with the English language.

The fact of the matter is that the Word BECAME flesh. The WORD didn't merely "assume" the form of a human being. He BECAME a human being.

Christ "assumed" the form of a human being on a number of prior occasions, such as when he wrestled with Jacob, or when he walked in the Garden. But in the incarnation he did more than merely "assume" the form of a human being.

Maybe you should be a little more careful with your words. Your ideas on this subject are downright weird. They culminated in that obviously heretical statement.

Instead of tap dancing around with silly explanations, perhaps you should just withdraw the statement. Sometimes you are just plain wrong. Sometimes you should admit it and move on.

3,070 posted on 12/29/2006 7:29:26 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; kosta50; Forest Keeper; adiaireton8; Blogger; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights

"Perhaps you have a problem with the English language.

The fact of the matter is that the Word BECAME flesh. The WORD didn't merely "assume" the form of a human being. He BECAME a human being."

I suggest, P-M, that English has a problem with Greek. What Kosta has said, as I said earlier, points out the distinction between two Greek words relating to the Incarnation which we all pray, I trust, every Sunday, and which English has glossed over to the point of vanishing.


3,072 posted on 12/29/2006 7:40:13 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: P-Marlowe; Forest Keeper; adiaireton8; Kolokotronis; Blogger; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; ...
Perhaps you have a problem with the English language

Perhaps I do. But, unlike some who think they understand English better, I use dictionaries just to be sure.

If you carefully review my wording I believe I said "took on" human nature. I believe that would qualify as "assume" human nature, just as "taking flesh" is synonymous with taking on (assuming) human nature.

It seems to me that perhaps you have difficulties with finer points of the English language.

I believe that the phrase Assumption of Mary is the same as taking Mary into heaven.

Perhaps you need to re-examine your Christology, for if you believe that He existed in flesh as man EN APXH your belief is not what Christianity taught from the beginning (no pun intended).

Athanasian Creed says


3,092 posted on 12/29/2006 9:22:30 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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