The issue is with your post 2,577 where you speculate that to a Jew motherhood is lordship. Unless Elisabeth was facetious, title shmitle, she did not exhibit such attitude.
but the justification is the one I've heard repeatedly from Catholic friends and associates
Either they are wrong yor you heard wrong. Mary is asked for her intercession, not to order Christ around.
And yet Yeshua had to quote the Scriptures to substantiate His claim to be David's Lord and greater than His forefather.
And yet even an Apostle made a point to say that Yeshua's lineage was from David "according to the flesh."
Elizabeth greeted Mary as the mother of a king, of the King. But she did not call her the Mother of God. The former was a matter of fact; the latter is blasphemy. The former still allows for the King to be greater than His earthly parent if He was in fact her Creator (her "father" in effect); the latter implies that Mary is God's Creator, that without her there would be no God at all. That's not the intent, but that's the implication, and that's why I reject the title. Words mean things.
Either they are wrong yor you heard wrong. Mary is asked for her intercession, not to order Christ around.
I did not hear wrong, and as for the latter, perhaps you should read some of your own literature. Alphonsus de Liguori’s famous book, The Glories of Mary, which was originally published in 1750 AD and has since appeared in over 800 editions, includes the following tidbits:
Shall we scruple to ask her to save us, when “the way of salvation is open to none otherwise than through Mary.”I know there are many Catholics who would reject the above, particularly the latter quote. I am sure you would too, so don't think I'm trying to put words in your mouth. Nevertheless, the popularity of the book proves that many Catholics fall right into the trap I've expressed concern about, of elevating Mary above Christ!“Many things,” says Nicephorus, “are asked from God, and are not granted: they are asked from Mary, and are obtained.”
“At the commands of Mary all obey—even God!”
--De Liguori, Alphonsus, The Glories of Mary, ed. Eugene Grimm (Brooklyn: Redemptionist Fathers, 1931), pp. 169, 180, 137
Perhaps you should see to cleaning up your own house before castigating those outside of it.