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To: spunkets

No, God was always the Holy Trinity. The Fathers and the Ecumenical Councils speak of the Persons of the Trinity being co-eternal, of the begottenness of the Son and procession of the Spirit from the Father as being eternal.

You are skating very close to the formula of the condemned heretic Arius, 'there was when the Son was not'.


2,515 posted on 12/20/2006 3:05:57 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David
Brother, David. You are so radical. You mean our Triune God has always been a Trinity? You guys are so stuck in the past what with your Bible, Holy Tradition, Ecumenical Councils, and Divine Liturgies etc.

Nothing ever changes with you guys.

You are, well, boring...

Don't you find the idea of a changeable God fresh, exciting, and new?

2,523 posted on 12/20/2006 3:22:48 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: The_Reader_David
"The Fathers and the Ecumenical Councils speak of the Persons of the Trinity being co-eternal, of the begottenness of the Son and procession of the Spirit from the Father as being eternal."

The Nicene creed from 325, 381 holds that the incarnation was before creation. Of course co-eternal is true from that point on. the procession of the Holy spirit from the father was always true. The Father's person is the Holy Spirit.

2,537 posted on 12/20/2006 4:26:06 PM PST by spunkets
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