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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; Risky-Riskerdo; .30Carbine
But I do understand your insistence on the contemporary occurrence of miracles. Maybe it's just semantics. I view so much of life as a miracle that it's difficult to say where non-miracles leave off and miracles begin.

God can and does work miracles in this world. I have not said otherwise. But He doesn't do it on Sunday from 10-12 on channel 62. It's not because we have great faith or we have a "special need" (as if others don't). It is based upon His sovereign will to effect His divine plan.

People insists on miracles from God, as if it's something that is due us or that we need some external proof that God loves us and has a wonderful plan for our lives. I haven't yet heard an explanation as to why we need miracles.

14,949 posted on 05/22/2007 4:43:00 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; Alamo-Girl; .30Carbine; betty boop; DarthVader; Mad Dawg
It's not because we have great faith or we have a "special need" (as if others don't).

That assertion is NOT congruent with scripture nor with my experiences as a Christian the last 60 years. Having a broken and contrite heart before God does move Him as Scripture indicates. In part because our desperation triggers utter heart rending authenticity toward and utterly desperate dependance ON GOD. That allows Him to do a LOT more with us than otherwise seems to be the case.

It is based upon His sovereign will to effect His divine plan.

Certainly God works His sovereign will out any number of ways in response to our choices and behaviors. BUT GOD HIMSELF CHOSE TO MAKE PRAYER EFFICACIOUS. GOD HIMSELF CHOSE to enable man as individuals to have an impact on His great plan(s). GOD HIMSELF insured that He moves Heaven and earth according to our prayers.

Besides that--HE'S OUR LOVING DADDY. HE IS DELIGHTED TO GIVE GOOD GIFTS TO HIS CHILDREN--when they won't choke on too much candy, so to speak.

People insists on miracles from God, as if it's something that is due us or that we need some external proof that God loves us and has a wonderful plan for our lives. I haven't yet heard an explanation as to why we need miracles.

We need miracles because:

1. We are just as fallen and desperate as those crowding around for Jesus' touch along the dusty paths.

2. GOD SET IT UP THAT WAY--THAT WE WOULD HAVE DESPERATE NEEDS AND HE'D BE DELIGHTED TO MEET THEM AS WE WALKED IN FELLOWSHIP, SUBMISSION AND OBEDIENCE in good faith and heart attitudes before and with Him. HIS DOING. HIS DESIGN. HIS REQUIREMENT that miracles were & are part of that. You have a complaint about that--talk to THE BOSS.

3. THE LOST are drawn to God very powerfully through miracles. Particularly certain personalities; folks with certain sequences of life experiences . . .

4. Folks plagued with demonic forces have no where else to turn with the effectiveness of the Blood and Power of Christ's Spirit through His kids to facilitate deliverance.

5. Miracles are kind of God's dress-up parade. He gets to SHOW HIMSELF MIGHTY IN OUR BEHALF. DADDY LOVES THAT. He gets to rub His power in satan's face as well as the face of all satan's followers here on earth. He gets to ring bells and blow whistles and set off spiritual fireworks declaring His majesty in ways that wholesale benefit His kids in nitty gritty practical ways. He loves that--as long as it furthers their spiritul walk--which it typically does quite powerfully and lastingly.

6. Miracles can kind of give a jump-start; kick start--leg-up--super boost to a beleagured spiritual walk that's on the verge of falling into the gutter, long term.

7. Miracles confirm God's Word in emphatic ways that nothing else can match. This fosters a lasting devotion to The Word as typically, little else can.

15,002 posted on 05/22/2007 8:45:46 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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