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To: Forest Keeper
Does God "desire all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth"? (1 Tim 2:4) If so, then given your claim that omnipotence is incompatible with "fail[ing] to get what He wants", and given the falsity of universalism, something has to give.

-A8

14,920 posted on 05/21/2007 9:09:36 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8
Does God "desire all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth"? (1 Tim 2:4) If so, then given your claim that omnipotence is incompatible with "fail[ing] to get what He wants", and given the falsity of universalism, something has to give.

That's right. I see the verse as like an outward call, and it certainly teaches us to treat all people as potentially of the elect in our witnessing. However, I do not think that God literally wants all people to be saved. I think He wants all of His elect to be saved and He does not want the reprobate to be saved. That is why He did not predestine them to become His children.

15,279 posted on 05/26/2007 3:04:03 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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