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To: Forest Keeper
Mary was full of Grace. That which God touched is considered holy. She was holy. Touching that which is holy would desecrate it.

Holy Cow, Batman! They've turned Mary from a human being into a relic, an icon, a holy object.

No one could "touch" mary without defiling her! This would mean that Joseph could not hold her hand, or hug her, or kiss her, or accidentally spit on her while talking, lest he defile this sacred object. Only Jesus could touch her. She could not have other children as that would mean that her other children would have touched her. She could not have other children because that would mean that Jospeh would have had to touch her. She was "untouchable".

I think I get this thing now. Mary worship is the same as icon worship and relic worship and object worship. It is the adoration of idols and graven images and objects. Mary is not simply a person on a pedestal, she is a HOLY object. Do not touch her, lest ye defile her. Bow before her, as SHE IS HOLY.

I thought I had seen everything. But now I get it. They can deny that they "worship" of Mary all they want, but this is worship. There is no other word for it.

1,486 posted on 12/15/2006 7:48:47 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
Holy Cow, Batman! They've turned Mary from a human being into a relic, an icon, a holy object. This would mean that Joseph could not hold her hand, or hug her, or kiss her, or accidentally spit on her while talking, lest he defile this sacred object.

No, just her womb, purified and made fitting for God, the High Priest, like the Holy of Holies in the sanctuary. I really feel sorry for Protestants, for they cannot see the obvious.

1,499 posted on 12/15/2006 9:15:17 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: P-Marlowe
I think I get this thing now. Mary worship is the same as icon worship and relic worship and object worship. It is the adoration of idols and graven images and objects. Mary is not simply a person on a pedestal, she is a HOLY object. Do not touch her, lest ye defile her. Bow before her, as SHE IS HOLY.(emphasis added)

Yeah. This is exactly the impression I am getting. I am still a couple days behind the conversation, but this is all I have so far. I really hope there is something more.

1,904 posted on 12/18/2006 11:14:29 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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