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To: blue-duncan; Uncle Chip; Blogger; HarleyD; wmfights; Quix

You clearly do not understand the difference between guilt by association and historical relevance.

Darby is by all accounts the father of the modern system known as dispensationalism. One of the hallmarks of dispensationalism is the pre-tribulation rapture. Darby claims to have invented that doctrine after realizing the radial distinction between Israel and the Church. The pre-trib doctrine was absolutely unknown with the Church prior to 1830. (Tommy Ice has been desperately seeking a Christian pre-tribber prior to Darby for years.) Further, the historical relationship between Darby and the group which included Margaret MacDonald is well known.

There has never been any relationship established between the so-called “Jesuit-Romanist” theory of one person and preterism. That is pure guilt by associaiton.


14,406 posted on 05/10/2007 6:06:44 AM PDT by topcat54 ("... knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience." (James 1:3))
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To: topcat54; blue-duncan
There has never been any relationship established between the so-called “Jesuit-Romanist” theory of one person and preterism. That is pure guilt by associaiton.

Well the Jesuit Alcasar was the founder of the school of preterism. That is a well known fact of history. And if you're going to hang around the school of preterism, you will be associating with its founder and his followers.

Rather than feeling guilty about it, maybe you should just proudly embrace your heritage and acknowledge the debt you owe to your founding father.

14,413 posted on 05/10/2007 6:40:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: topcat54

Darby is by all accounts the father of the modern system known as dispensationalism.

= = =

“by all accounts”

Goodness. What an untrue statement!

No wonder Scripture gets mangled so much.


14,422 posted on 05/10/2007 6:59:12 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: topcat54; blue-duncan; Uncle Chip; Blogger; HarleyD; wmfights; Quix
You clearly do not understand the difference between guilt by association and historical relevance. Darby is by all accounts the father of the modern system known as dispensationalism. One of the hallmarks of dispensationalism is the pre-tribulation rapture. Darby claims to have invented that doctrine after realizing the radial distinction between Israel and the Church. The pre-trib doctrine was absolutely unknown with the Church prior to 1830. (Tommy Ice has been desperately seeking a Christian pre-tribber prior to Darby for years.) Further, the historical relationship between Darby and the group which included Margaret MacDonald is well known. There has never been any relationship established between the so-called “Jesuit-Romanist” theory of one person and preterism. That is pure guilt by associaiton.

And you don't understand the scriptures.

Darby didn't 'invent' anything.

What he, and the Scofield reference Bible did, was make the pre-trib view well known.

Stop throwing around red herrings.

If the scriptures teach the pre-trib view, using the correct hermentucial approach,(literal/figurative) than that is all that matters and that is what has to be refuted.

And the same is true of the preterist view.

It stands or falls on how well it explains the scriptures, not 'wresting them'.

14,463 posted on 05/11/2007 4:59:25 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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