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To: Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; betty boop; .30Carbine; Quix
For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. - Matt 25:29-30

So what's the message here, A-G? The one who didn't make a profit shall be damned? Is this the same Jesus who turned money-changers' tables? Is profit-making the way to come to God? Did not Jesus tell the rich man to sell everything? Did Paul not say he doesn't want to profit from preaching? And someone mentioned forgiveness?

For not the hearers of the law [are] just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified

This is one of those characteristic Pauline "say what?" Doers of the law shall be justified, yet Paul says no one can fulfill the law perfectly, so we are saved by God's mercy alone, fopr having faith in Him and not for anything we can do.

In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. - Romans 2:12-16

His gospel?

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven -- Mat 7:21-23

Funny, and I read "Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Acts 2:21, Rom 10:13) and "Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered." (Joel 2:32)

[Hint: Paul was not around whe matthew was written...] but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. - Matt 5:21-22

Really? Various authors of the Bible call many a person 'fool.' Are they in danger of hell fire? To wit:

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." (Ps 14:1, 53:1); "Ye fools and blind" (Matthew 23:17, 19); "You fools" (Luk 11:40); "O fools, and slow of heart to believe" (Luk 24:25); "Their foolish heart was darkened" (Rom 1:21); Thou fool" (1 Cor 15:36); O foolish Galatians (Gal 3:1), and 47 more references of Paul calling others fools or foolish. Just for the record!

Just my "musings," A-G.

13,369 posted on 04/23/2007 11:00:56 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
[.. Is this the same Jesus who turned money-changers' tables? Is profit-making the way to come to God? Did not Jesus tell the rich man to sell everything? Did Paul not say he doesn't want to profit from preaching? ..]

What is Spiritual profit?.. or what profits spiritually?..

The economy of God is an economy of service.. giving.. which is love..
Love IS giving/service.. Service is profit.. Giving is an investment..
The honor to be in the position to serve can be profit..
Giving what you have can be an investment.. as a wise steward..

What else does anybody have but themselves, their spirit..
This thread is a kind of giving.. and a profit..

13,377 posted on 04/23/2007 11:27:17 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: kosta50; hosepipe; betty boop; .30Carbine; Quix
So what's the message here, A-G? The one who didn't make a profit shall be damned? Is this the same Jesus who turned money-changers' tables? Is profit-making the way to come to God? Did not Jesus tell the rich man to sell everything? Did Paul not say he doesn't want to profit from preaching? And someone mentioned forgiveness?

The parable of the talents – like all parables – must be spiritually discerned. Christ spoke in parables specifically so that those to whom it was not given to understand, could not understand. (Matt 13)

The talents are God’s gifts to us – all of them. If we do not use those gifts to His glory (His account in the parable) - then we are unprofitable servants. See also the parable of the sower.

The “ears to hear” are also gifts of God.

And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. - John 6:65

Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. – John 8:43

But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: - John 10:26-27

The rest of your post is mostly a rant against Paul who I understand you dismiss out of hand anyway. However it should be noted that Jesus Christ certainly is within His authority as God to use the word “fool” without the penalty He speaks in Matt 5.

Other references to “fool” such as “the fool has said in his heart there is no God” are not directed to another person but rather to a type of person. It is a judgment of matter v. people which we are to effect (I Cor 6, etc.)

13,383 posted on 04/23/2007 11:43:04 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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