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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; Quix; P-Marlowe

“In 2 Timothy the scripture is called profitable, that is, somethig needed in addition to something else”

Please give me one cite to scripture that says either tradition or the church can make one wise unto salvation.

2 Tim. 3:15, “And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.”

Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, [as] the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

1Pe 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, [as] silver and gold, from your vain conversation [received] by tradition from your fathers

I think this will pass the grammar police’s test.


13,249 posted on 04/21/2007 5:39:10 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; Quix; P-Marlowe
give me one cite to scripture that says either tradition or the church can make one wise unto salvation.

The scriptures that Timothy knew in childhood were the Septuagint: inclusive of the books Luther banned, exclusive of the Gospels. Yes, scripture makes us wise, and yes, wisdom is necessary for a man of cloth, to lead himself and others to salvation.

The Scripture is not anything separate from the Tradition; it is simply a part of it:

13 ... he hath called you by our gospel, unto the purchasing of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 14 Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.
Whether by word or epistle, unto glory of Christ.
13,282 posted on 04/22/2007 4:37:47 PM PDT by annalex
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