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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; HarleyD; wmfights; P-Marlowe; AlbionGirl
If the ability to repent and the desire to repent and the will to repent all come from God alone, then the phantasmagorical self-deception of free will matters not in the least

Sure it does; can God give a gift that is counterfeit? God gave me free will; so free it is.

13,239 posted on 04/21/2007 1:47:38 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
can God give a gift that is counterfeit? God gave me free will; so free it is.

How can a "gift" be something that can and does stand a good chance of sending you to hell?

Some "gift."

No, men believe they are free because they can decide what time to wake up in the morning and what shoes to wear with what pants. And while all that feels very personal and individual and immediate, the course of every atom was determined by God from before the foundation of the world.

"Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers" -- Isaiah 44:24-26

This is joyous news for grateful believers who owe their faith to the Holy Spirit opening their hearts and minds and illuminating God's truth. But it's news of no consequence to those who don't believe since they are already lost in the darkness of their denial.

13,252 posted on 04/21/2007 7:38:59 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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