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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; DarthVader; Alamo-Girl

If it were as clear as you superstitiously insist on believing, we’d have nothing to argue about.


13,097 posted on 04/19/2007 7:11:31 PM PDT by annalex
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To: Forest Keeper
A propos our discussion of works and faith, this is St. John Chrysostom's commentary on today's Gospel, "He that believeth in the Son hath life everlasting: but he that believeth not the Son shall not see life: but the wrath of God abideth on him":
"Is it then enough," says one, "to believe in the Son, that one may have eternal life?" By no means. And hear Christ Himself declaring this, and saying, "Not every one that says unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven" ( Matt. vii. 21 ); and the blasphemy against the Spirit is enough of itself to cast a man into hell. But why speak I of a portion of doctrine? Though a man believe rightly on the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, yet if he lead not a right life, his faith will avail nothing towards his salvation. Therefore when He says, "This is life eternal, that they may know You the only true God" ( c. xvii. 3 ), let us not suppose that the (knowledge) spoken of is sufficient for our salvation; we need besides this a most exact life and conversation. Since though he has said here, "He that believes in the Son has eternal life," and in the same place something even stronger, (for he weaves his discourse not of blessings only, but of their contraries also, speaking thus: "He that believes not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him";) yet not even from this do we assert that faith alone is sufficient to salvation. And the directions for living given in many places of the Gospels show this. Therefore he did not say, "This by itself is eternal life," nor, "He that does but believe in the Son has eternal life," but by both expressions he declared this, that the thing does contain life, yet that if a right conversation follow not, there will follow a heavy punishment. And he did not say, "awaits him," but, "abides on him," that is, "shall never remove from him." For that you may not think that the "shall not see life," is a temporary death, but may believe that the punishment is continual, he has put this expression to show that it rests upon him continually.

Homily 31 on the Gospel of John


13,098 posted on 04/19/2007 7:21:45 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex

If it were as clear as you superstitiously insist on believing, we’d have nothing to argue about.
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Do you like it when I or someone else mentions the superstitions of the RC’s about/around praying to idols, departed saints etc. and other !!!!TRADITIONS!!!! of men?


13,099 posted on 04/19/2007 7:45:20 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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