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To: kosta50; annalex; wmfights; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; Quix; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg

“Really?”

Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.”

Eph.1:20-22, “Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,”


12,899 posted on 04/17/2007 7:22:57 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan; annalex; wmfights; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; Quix; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg
Act 2:33 ...Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, Eph.1:20-22... set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places

BD, I am aware of what the Bible says. The issue is of reading it literally.

First, Paul always says that God raised Christ from the dead. The Nicene Creed, which reflects the understanding of the Church, says that Christ "rose" on the thrid day. In fact, Paul and Acts (with Paul's influence) always asserts that God raised Christ.

It seems that Chirst can do nothing on His own according to Paul. His Christology is obviously not that of the Trinitarian dogma.

More importantly, he says that God seated Christ to the right of Him in heavenly places (not place), suggesting that even though Chirst is bodily in heaven, He is somehow in different "places" at the same time.

(Note: the Orthodox Church maintains that the inside of the Church during Divine Liturgy is "heaven on earth." That would make it possible, and biblically defensible, to say that Christ is physically present in the Eucharist!)

The other issue is God, who is a Spirit, having a literal right "side" and sitting [?] on a "real" throne. Can we address this in a civilized manner without resorting to Kabbalah and ad hominem?

12,904 posted on 04/17/2007 7:54:55 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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