I don’t think your assumption in terms of mindreading what Our Christ thought about that prayer and praying otherwise to be very convincing.
Well, let’s not be too sensitive. I do know that the Lord gives us one prayer and says thus we should pray. Everything else is a conjecture or a man-made tradition.
What “assumptions”, Quix? Does the the NT have any other official prayer from God Himself?
Our Lord thought it to be sufficient.
That comes across as a mind-reading assumption that the giving of THE LORD'S PRAYER was considered by Christ to be a full, complete, thorough, total, all encompassing treatise on prayer from His perspective and that nothing additional was desired, wished, more than barely tolerable etc.
A disciple asks how we should pray. The Lord gives us ONE EXAMPLE. That's all that happened. There's nothing to suggest that the ONE EXAMPLE included all God thought, felt, desired in terms of prayer. Construing things beyond that is based on conjecture and assumption.
There is the case of Daniel praying 3 times a day and the hint/evidence that God The Father thought that was pretty good alright. No mention of the same worded OUR FATHER in the Daniel narrative.
There's a lot of recorded conversations with God in the OT. It's been construed that Prayer is a conversation with God. Why aren't those conversations offered as grounds for assumptions and doctrine, ritual similar to those fostered by the OUR FATHER prayer?
It was one example given to a specific question at a specific point in time. There's no heading billing it as the total Heavenly doctrine on prayer. There's no footnote to that effect. Assuming that there is--is--assumption. Generalizing so grandiosely based on that is at best a great hazard.
I could probably tease out some other assumption possibilities but that should do, to prove the point.
The New Testament gives us one specific prayer with the words "Thus you should pray..." No mention of any other prayer, form, length, etc. is given. The Lord's Prayer is Lord-given,. The rest are man-made. No assumptions are made and no mind reading is involved (on my side at least).
A disciple asks how we should pray. The Lord gives us ONE EXAMPLE
Now, that is an assumption. he doesn't say "For example...thus you should pray." It was a command, not an example.
There is the case of Daniel praying 3 times a day and the hint/evidence that God The Father thought that was pretty good alright. No mention of the same worded OUR FATHER in the Daniel narrative
So what? The Eastern Orthodox pray three times a day, and fast twice a week (both inherited from Judaism). Daniel couldn't have know the Lord's Prayer because it is Old Testament. God did not reveal His Prayer yet.
There's a lot of recorded conversations with God in the OT. It's been construed that Prayer is a conversation with God.
The OT also talks about sacrificing animals. The OT is only foreshadowing of Christ. Christ tells us in the Gospel how we should pray. Your argument is with Him, not with me.
It was one example given to a specific question at a specific point in time
What specific question and specific time? He was giving a sermon. He said "When you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do [i.e. blather, have "conversation" with God]; for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. Pray then in this way: Our Father..."
Seems pretty clear to me He is telling us not to waste our words making up "discourses" with God, but to pray the Lord's Prayer.
Yes, this is exactly right. The NT is clear that while the Lord's Prayer is ALWAYS right and proper, in no way are these the only words God is interested in hearing in prayer. For example:
1 John 5:13-15 : 13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15 And if we know that he hears us — whatever we ask — we know that we have what we asked of him.
This necessarily expands the parameters of approved prayer beyond the four corners of the Lord's Prayer.