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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50; annalex; Quix; kawaii; Forest Keeper
In fact, I believe I said that the Latin Church hasn't taught dogmatically that she is the "co-redemptrix", despite aggitation for precisely that teaching.

Hmmmm....while I don't like to speak in hypothetical, what exactly would be your reaction if the Latin Church made Mary "co-redemptrix"? You know the Latin Church is very close to this.

11,461 posted on 03/19/2007 3:38:55 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; Kolokotronis; kosta50; Quix; kawaii; Forest Keeper
The operative illusion here is that co-Redemptrix means anything different than what the Catechism, posted at 11,441, teaches:
she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation .... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix

11,462 posted on 03/19/2007 3:53:36 PM PDT by annalex
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To: HarleyD; kosta50; annalex; Quix; kawaii; Forest Keeper

"Hmmmm....while I don't like to speak in hypothetical, what exactly would be your reaction if the Latin Church made Mary "co-redemptrix"? You know the Latin Church is very close to this."

Well, it would all depend on what the Latins meant by it. If what they meant was what the Catechism says, then no problem. If they meant something more, well, then I might have a problem. I do have a problem with the term because it seems to raise her to the level of Christ, but then again, I'm a guy who chants, "Most Holy Theotokos save us!" so who am I to throw rocks? Within an Orthodox culture, that prayer is just fine, but I've seen the reaction of you westerners here to it and have to admit that outside an Orthodox milieu, it obviously causes trouble. I suspect the same can be said for "co-redemptrix", at least I hope so. On the other hand, we Orthodoxers do all sorts of things you folks find odd. :)


11,463 posted on 03/19/2007 3:56:32 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: HarleyD
You know the Latin Church is very close to this.

What do you mean by "very close", and where can I go to see the data that lies behind this assertion?

11,466 posted on 03/19/2007 4:50:07 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Tactical shotty, Marlin 1894c, S&W 686P, Sig 226 & 239, Beretta 92fs & 8357, Glock 22, & attitude!)
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