To: kawaii
If you'l recall the New Testament original language is Greek; it's not a translation.
I'm well aware that the New Testament original language is Greek. So? My comment still stands.
Because they read their translation which is worded poorly and seems to suggest that 282 of St Paul's words which have been accepted as scripture for almost 2000 yeras are meaningless and do not apply today.
Please don't tell me the Orthodox follow every single commandment listed in the New Testament. You may have a problem with verses such as:
Luk 12:33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
(Sorry I can't post the Greek here.) I won't make excuses. It's my personal feeling Christianity, like Judeism, is degenerating. We are drifting farther away from scripture. What you are pointing out is one (among many) of these drifts. It is much the same in the Catholic, and yes, Orthodox Church. There is substantial evidence in scripture of this happening throughout both the Old and New Testament. And we are warned by the fathers this would happen and is the reason they preserved for us the scriptures. I know this may sound pessimistic but I look at it as simply a realistic assessment of our situation.
These drifts are corrected by God throughout the course of time by different methods.
1) You can have a period of enlightenment by God such as the judges in the Old Testament (or a Reformation).
2) God exact judgment upon the people and the people turn to Him as with King Josiah or Hezikiah.
3) God requires final judgment as with the Great Flood
Eventually we will reach a point of one of these scenarios.
Further we get things like the revised standard edition which, for example, leave off 8 versus at the end of Mark...It's a fact that since the 14th century there have been rampant attempts by folks with an axe to grind to translate the Bible into what they'd LIKE it to say
As one who used the Revised Standard for almost 30 years, you pick a VERY poor example. That translation is a mess in my opinion. I finally threw it out despite my years of notes. Better versions explain where they got their text from and list other text interpretation. Anyone who is even remotely interested in understanding the scriptures should have a good lexicon and can still see the Greek structure. You're living in the 14th century.
To: HarleyD
your comment mentions a translation; the original text ain't a translation; your comment is non-applicable.
10,133 posted on
02/12/2007 11:55:59 AM PST by
kawaii
(Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
To: HarleyD
Luk 12:33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
Noting that the quoted text doesn't explicify ALL that ye have. That said the priests in ROCOR parishes often live in poverty conditions, and we keep strong to the head covering thing too. Scripture ain't subjective.
10,134 posted on
02/12/2007 11:57:28 AM PST by
kawaii
(Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
To: HarleyD
My point with the revised standard is that there exist English translations which are biased garbage. They do nothing but confuse people and promote false interpretations of scripture. One can disagree with which ones are the poor translations but you've already made my point with your admission about the revised standard there exist translations written by biased men which do not promote the truth of Holy Scripture.
10,135 posted on
02/12/2007 11:59:18 AM PST by
kawaii
(Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
To: HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix
Just an historical side note: A custom of nomadic people living in hostile environments, such as a desert or the Arctic, was for the mother to use her long hair to clean her baby. While no doubt a good custom in those places,and still in effect, I'm sure it's one no man really wants to see his wife keep today.
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