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'The Nativity Story' Movie Problematic for Catholics, "Unsuitable" for Young Children
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 12/4/2006 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480

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To: Blogger

Fair, loving, merciful compassionate and just!

So much so that only God could do it.


4,281 posted on 01/06/2007 9:28:34 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

How so?


4,282 posted on 01/06/2007 9:28:36 PM PST by Blogger (In nullo gloriandum quando nostrum nihil sit- Cyprian)
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To: Blogger

So many ways. How would you like me to begin?


4,283 posted on 01/06/2007 9:29:18 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

So you are saying that a Holy God who has never done any evil at all, stepping out of His glories in heaven where everyone worshipped Him and adored Him, coming down to earth, becoming a human being (while still maintaining divinity for those who want to accuse me of something - Kosta), living a 100% SINLESS life with no evil at all, being put to death by having his hands and feet nailed to a wood post and suffocating to death for sins he never committed for people who hated him - that's fair???????

Now on that one, you have me stymied.


4,284 posted on 01/06/2007 9:31:29 PM PST by Blogger (In nullo gloriandum quando nostrum nihil sit- Cyprian)
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To: Blogger

First of all God kept his word. Second, death was required of man. Third the sentence was paid. Fourth, God sacrificed his own Son to pay it..

Just, true, consistent, merciful, and... so much more. It cannot be fully known.. but to know it more is to know God.


4,285 posted on 01/06/2007 9:31:40 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

By scripture, God cannot show favoritism, nor can He be a respecter of persons. Likewise, all have sinned and all are unrighteous. They are totally sinful. None do good.

Why are some drawn and others not?

By the above, calvinism says it cannot be favoritism and it cannot be something in the person.

Isn't that the question, though, when anyone survives a disaster that kills many others? Why me?

What would you tell that person?


4,286 posted on 01/06/2007 9:32:16 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: D-fendr

But not fair. If I break the law but you have to go to jail for my crime, is that fair?


4,287 posted on 01/06/2007 9:32:45 PM PST by Blogger (In nullo gloriandum quando nostrum nihil sit- Cyprian)
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To: Blogger

In Calvinism I see so little of value in the Cross. It means so little. When it is a huge climax of salvation history.


4,288 posted on 01/06/2007 9:34:27 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: Blogger

Law says a man must go. I volunteered in your stead. Law is satisfied.


4,289 posted on 01/06/2007 9:36:32 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: xzins

I would tell that person to be more careful.


4,290 posted on 01/06/2007 9:37:34 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

The cross says it all. It is the grace of God towards mankind- completely irrespective to whether or not man "DESERVES" it, for he doesn't. It is mercy displayed on a pole. It is God's plan for all the ages come to fruition. It is the CULMINATION of Calvinism. God's salvific plan manifested and accomplished, once for all.


4,291 posted on 01/06/2007 9:37:37 PM PST by Blogger (In nullo gloriandum quando nostrum nihil sit- Cyprian)
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To: D-fendr

But justice is not.


4,292 posted on 01/06/2007 9:38:22 PM PST by Blogger (In nullo gloriandum quando nostrum nihil sit- Cyprian)
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Justice is not satisfied in this equation because unlike Christ, you do not have the clout to satisfy justice. You have broken the very same law, so by that law deserve to die as well. Justice demands that BOTH of us are punished for our sins. You can't stand as a substitute for me, for you too are guilty.


4,293 posted on 01/06/2007 9:39:40 PM PST by Blogger (In nullo gloriandum quando nostrum nihil sit- Cyprian)
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Sure justice is. We have to break a tad above to see the analogy. "Man" broke the law, "Man" paid the fine.


4,294 posted on 01/06/2007 9:39:44 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr; Blogger

"More careful" is not a real answer.

But, it's late for both of us, and I'm tired, too, and gotta get up early and lead worship.

I'll try to pick this up again sometime tomorrow or Monday.

Night all.


4,295 posted on 01/06/2007 9:41:14 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Blogger

Only God could and serve in stead.

And only God did.


4,296 posted on 01/06/2007 9:41:20 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

But every man is responsible for his own fine, and you don't have enough cash to pay for both.


4,297 posted on 01/06/2007 9:41:35 PM PST by Blogger (In nullo gloriandum quando nostrum nihil sit- Cyprian)
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To: Blogger

This is basic Christianity.


4,298 posted on 01/06/2007 9:41:46 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr; xzins

Sorry, what you are saying tonight is not. Best think it over more carefully. I too have to go to bed tonight because I have to teach Sunday School in the AM. Have a good evening.


4,299 posted on 01/06/2007 9:42:53 PM PST by Blogger (In nullo gloriandum quando nostrum nihil sit- Cyprian)
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Only a perfect penitent could pay the fine.

This is not all new to you, is it?


4,300 posted on 01/06/2007 9:43:04 PM PST by D-fendr
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