[The Lumster]

Perhaps he was unaware of the taping

He was not unaware because the crew taping him was the crew he brought with him from Saddleback. This guy takes a camera crew everywhere he goes to record his every move.

So, since he was not unaware and since he claimed that his statements had not been recorded I would say that makes Rick Warren a liar.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits......Mat 7:15-16

[Cecily]

I can't wait for Warren's pronouncements on North Korea (if he still goes there next year). NOT! The man is a complete, man-pleasing fraud.