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To: stfassisi

"For Protestants it does not really, really, make a difference whether Jesus Christ is really God or not."

What a bufoon this guy is!


9 posted on 11/15/2006 11:27:58 AM PST by Augustinian monk
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To: Augustinian monk; stfassisi

"For Protestants it does not really, really, make a difference whether Jesus Christ is really God or not."

What a bufoon this guy is!

9 posted on 11/15/2006 12:27:58 PM MST by Augustinian monk

You give John Hardon far too much credit!

He is either completely ignorant or a purposeful lier

b'shem Y'shua
11 posted on 11/15/2006 12:01:36 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
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To: Augustinian monk

""For Protestants it does not really, really, make a difference whether Jesus Christ is really God or not.""

Bishop John Shelby Spong comes to mind.

"Theism, as a way of defining God, is dead. So most theological God-talk is today meaningless. A new way to speak of God must be found.
Since God can no longer be conceived in theistic terms, it becomes nonsensical to seek to understand Jesus as the incarnation of the theistic deity. So the Christology of the ages is bankrupt.
The biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which human beings fell into sin is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-Darwinian nonsense.
The virgin birth, understood as literal biology, makes Christ's divinity, as traditionally understood, impossible.
The miracle stories of the New Testament can no longer be interpreted in a post-Newtonian world as supernatural events performed by an incarnate deity.
The view of the cross as the sacrifice for the sins of the world is a barbarian idea based on primitive concepts of God and must be dismissed.
Resurrection is an action of God. Jesus was raised into the meaning of God. It therefore cannot be a physical resuscitation occurring inside human history.
The story of the Ascension assumed a three-tiered universe and is therefore not capable of being translated into the concepts of a post-Copernican space age.
There is no external, objective, revealed standard writ in scripture or on tablets of stone that will govern our ethical behavior for all time.
Prayer cannot be a request made to a theistic deity to act in human history in a particular way." SNIP~

http://www.anglicantas.org.au/tasmaniananglican/200310-spong.html


12 posted on 11/15/2006 12:01:53 PM PST by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: Augustinian monk
What a bufoon this guy is!

For Protestants it does not really, really, make a difference whether Jesus Christ is really God or not. Six of Luther’s works have never been published and they will never be published, as long as there is a Lutheran left on earth. They’ll never be published. Kept in safety deposit boxes in Germany. One page after another, and the manuscript is of Martin Luther, Christ is described as and I am being very kind, as a lecherous sinner. No way, no way, that the Christ of Martin Luther could be the living God.

*Fr. Hardon was a brilliant priest. Please rethink your post, re-read what Fr. Hardon wrote, and then, feel at liberty to apologise. Fr. Hardon is CLEARLY referring to what Luther wrote

16 posted on 11/15/2006 1:11:20 PM PST by bornacatholic
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