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To: adiaireton8; Dr. Eckleburg
Therefore, (4) One can know with certainty that one is elect only at or after death.

Do you call yourself a Christian? How do you know that you will not fall away 10 years from now and become a Muslim?

Based upon your argument you should not even wear the title until after you die.

223 posted on 11/17/2006 4:10:37 AM PST by HarleyD (Mat 19:11 "But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.)
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To: HarleyD
Do you call yourself a Christian?

Yes, but I prefer the term 'Catholic'; any heretic can call himself a "Christian".

How do you know that you will not fall away 10 years from now and become a Muslim?

I don't. Only God knows the future. Peter emphatically insisted that he [Peter] would never deny Christ. What happened? He immediately denied Jesus three times. We cannot depend upon our confidence in our own will-power to show us that we are elect. And if Calvinists are turning to their own will-power for assurance of election, then how is that not Pelagianism?

Based upon your argument you should not even wear the title until after you die.

How would that follow?

-A8

225 posted on 11/17/2006 5:50:15 AM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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