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To: Lord_Calvinus
You have with your false logic simply turned Scripture into a fable.

No, your theology does that; the logic is a *direct* entailment of your claim in #88 that "of course [the assurance verses] don't apply to those who will fall away".

(1) The 'assurance verses' don't apply to apostates-to-be.

Therefore,

(2) One has to know whether or not one is an apostate-to-be in order to know whether the 'assurance verses' apply to oneself.

Don't like that conclusion? Then you have to give up the premise, or give up logic and embrace contradictions in your theology.

-A8

204 posted on 11/16/2006 6:40:29 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8; Dr. Eckleburg
Don't like that conclusion? Then you have to give up the premise, or give up logic and embrace contradictions in your theology.

1 John 5:13
These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

I don't know about you, but I don't invent "logic" which contradicts Scripture and then accuse others of abandoning logic. Here is the truth of the matter for all to see. I, John, Disciple, Apostle, personal friend of the Lord Jesus the Logos of God, son of Thunder, am writing to believers with a purpose, even if some may like to think that I must have abandoned logic for old Calvinist wives tales, that you who are believers may know that you have eternal life. Not might have or have it just for today, but HAVE.

adiaireton8, you may choose to believe that this verse applies to you or not. I am a true believer; I know. This verse applies to me. Take your accusations of logic up with John & Jesus.

post tenebras lux,

243 posted on 11/17/2006 12:09:10 PM PST by Lord_Calvinus
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