To: Dr. Eckleburg
Because they persevere to the end, by the grace of God. So until one perseveres to the end of one's life, one cannot know that one has persevering faith. And therefore, one cannot know that one is elect until one reaches the end of one's life. That has been my point all along.
-A8
167 posted on
11/16/2006 11:32:41 AM PST by
adiaireton8
("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
To: adiaireton8
So until one perseveres to the end of one's life, one cannot know that one has persevering faith. And therefore, one cannot know that one is elect until one reaches the end of one's life.Will you always love your children?
170 posted on
11/16/2006 12:00:33 PM PST by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose))
To: Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Forest Keeper; Ottofire; Lord_Calvinus; Frumanchu; Terabitten; ..
"Dr. Eckleburg" and I reached an agreement on whether one can know now that one is elect. See
here. We agreed that we cannot know that we are elect until we persevere in faith to death. So in that case, whatever assurance we
now have cannot be equivalent to knowing that one is elect. And that is my position on the matter of assurance, as I explained a while back
here. Now all you Calvinists will have to live with being
"nervous wrecks".
-A8
172 posted on
11/16/2006 12:01:27 PM PST by
adiaireton8
("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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