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Halloween: Behind the Mask
Good News Magazine ^ | Fall 2005 | Jerold Aust

Posted on 10/22/2006 10:37:57 AM PDT by DouglasKC

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To: escapefromboston
I wouldn't even say 10 percent of Satanist are actually worshipping satan.

Just from a brief explanation I once heard of Satanists, many do not even believe in Satan. It's more of a self-indulgant, do anything you want no matter the consequences type of religion.

321 posted on 10/24/2006 11:14:32 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Trust: Hard to forge. Easy to break.)
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To: tacticalogic
All the article is doing is trying to resurrect a boogie man.

Resurrect? He already lives in my house. Sorry. Couldn't resist. My husband plays bogeyman at this time of year. Around Christmas he magically transforms into Santa Claus.

322 posted on 10/24/2006 11:18:16 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Trust: Hard to forge. Easy to break.)
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To: DouglasKC
lol...that possibility certainly exists, but only when I stray from the word of God and start making up stuff. God is not the author of confusion.

Personally, I think you've extrapolated you way into deep left field on this one.

323 posted on 10/24/2006 11:57:36 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: DouglasKC
In the book of Jeremiah, the Lord tells us: Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

God can and only God can. For somebody to project pagan intents on Christian actions is to pretend to know their heart. Only God can know our hearts.

I believe you didn't understand something I said. When I was referring to only God knowing what's in our hearts, that's exactly what I was talking about. I was not talking about deciding what's right and wrong from what's in our hearts as you seem to think I said. God knows the hearts of Christians when they celebrate Halloween, whether they are engaging in idol worship or not. Again, only God knows, so to project pagan intents onto Christian action is to pretend to be God.

Also, in comparing the sacrifice to idols in 1 Corinthians 10 to Christians and Halloween you are comparing apples to the unknown because you cannot know the reasons Christians decide to celebrate Halloween.

324 posted on 10/24/2006 12:04:20 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: DouglasKC
The Satanic Bible lists only 3 "holidays" of significance to Satanists, one of which is Halloween.

So? Halloween predates Satanists. If Satanists embraced Easter, should we then condemn that as well?

325 posted on 10/24/2006 12:09:20 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: DouglasKC; tacticalogic
It makes people extemely uncomfortable to have their world view challenged...which is why I suspect some are greeting an article about Halloween with such vitriol.

And why you people object to evolution as well. You live in your tiny little comfortable sterile bubble and anything that challenges it is a threat.

326 posted on 10/24/2006 12:15:54 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: DouglasKC
God is not the author of confusion.

Indeed, He is not. But He is the author of freedom.

1 Cor 10:23-24,31
Everything is permissible," but not everything is helpful. "Everything is permissible," but not everything builds up. No one should seek his own [good], but [the good] of the other person...Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do everything for God's glory.

327 posted on 10/24/2006 12:18:53 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: linda_22003

Look,
any chance I have to put on a costume and I'm there!
Holiday or no...


328 posted on 10/24/2006 12:19:13 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: DouglasKC
G-d hates Snickers Bars!!
329 posted on 10/24/2006 12:28:37 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: RadioAstronomer
And why you people object to evolution as well. You live in your tiny little comfortable sterile bubble and anything that challenges it is a threat.

I believe the Russians used to negotiate from the same premise. "What's mine is mine. What's yours is negotiable."

330 posted on 10/24/2006 12:32:07 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
And why you people object to evolution as well. You live in your tiny little comfortable sterile bubble and anything that challenges it is a threat.

Yes, we routinely tiptoe forth from our secure little dwellings, timid and scairt of the ghosties.

331 posted on 10/24/2006 12:34:25 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand)
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To: DouglasKC

Halloween stores are springing up all over. I count six on the way to the grocery store. And that doesn't include the churches selling pumpkins. It's wonderful.


332 posted on 10/24/2006 12:36:17 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: scripter
God can and only God can. For somebody to project pagan intents on Christian actions is to pretend to know their heart. Only God can know our hearts.

I didn't project pagan intent. That's your statement. In a previous post I offered the opinion that 90% of those who celebrate Halloween do it out ignorance or because of deception. I'm sure their intentions are good, but God doesn't judge on the basis of intention alone. There's a truism that applies here...the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

God knows the hearts of Christians when they celebrate Halloween, whether they are engaging in idol worship or not. Again, only God knows, so to project pagan intents onto Christian action is to pretend to be God.

As I said, I'm not doing that. But let me ask a question:

Do you believe that a Christian homosexual shouldn't be judged on homosexual behavior if his intentions are good? For example, if he/she loves their "partner" and say that they are in a fulfilling relationship then should you respect that and never comment about their homosexuality..as a Christian?

Also, in comparing the sacrifice to idols in 1 Corinthians 10 to Christians and Halloween you are comparing apples to the unknown because you cannot know the reasons Christians decide to celebrate Halloween.

Nonsense. Do you think Paul cared what the "reasons" were, what the intentions were, for every single pagan who sacrificed to idols? Paul must have been pretty intolerant because I'll bet some pagans sacrificed so the gods could restore sick husbands or wives to health. Maybe some sacrificed so that their children would be safe on a long journey. Maybe some sacrificed because it was a family tradition, a time of togetherness. Nope, poor intolerant Paul just told it like it is. No MATTER their intent:

1Co 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

333 posted on 10/24/2006 12:37:52 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: RadioAstronomer
So? Halloween predates Satanists. If Satanists embraced Easter, should we then condemn that as well?

I almost hate to say this (almost), but Easter is not one of the Holy days that God created. God created specific holy days. They are listed in the 23rd book of Leviticus. Easter is a man created holiday.

334 posted on 10/24/2006 12:39:53 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

All holidays are man created IMHO.


335 posted on 10/24/2006 12:41:34 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: DouglasKC

Be kind of hard to have Easter in Leviticus now wouldn't it?


336 posted on 10/24/2006 12:41:43 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand)
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To: RadioAstronomer
It makes people extemely uncomfortable to have their world view challenged...which is why I suspect some are greeting an article about Halloween with such vitriol.
And why you people object to evolution as well. You live in your tiny little comfortable sterile bubble and anything that challenges it is a threat.

You people? I certainly don't want to change the subject to evolution, but the reason I object to evolution isn't because it upsets my world view. I used to believe that evolution was correct. God has already upset my world view.

337 posted on 10/24/2006 12:42:55 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: 1000 silverlings
Be kind of hard to have Easter in Leviticus now wouldn't it?

Sure is. And neither does it appear in the new testament.

338 posted on 10/24/2006 12:43:41 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: RadioAstronomer
All holidays are man created IMHO.

You're right. But holy days are God created and listed in the bible.

339 posted on 10/24/2006 12:44:35 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: scripter
1 Cor 10:23-24,31 Everything is permissible," but not everything is helpful. "Everything is permissible," but not everything builds up. No one should seek his own [good], but [the good] of the other person...Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do everything for God's glory.

Sin is still here. It didn't go away. God doesn't "permit" it. He forgives it for Christians, but he expects that we won't do it, and if we do, that we'll repent of it.

340 posted on 10/24/2006 12:47:00 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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