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To: adiaireton8
We have the Magesterium. We have the Tradition. We have Scripture. That's what we have.

You can keep the Magisterium...You can keep your tradition...And you don't follow the bible anyway...

WE'LL keep the scripture...

75 posted on 10/21/2006 1:04:24 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

"WE'LL keep the scripture..."
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FWIW, the Scripture was given to all of us. It's just a question of who wants to follow it.


80 posted on 10/21/2006 2:08:49 PM PDT by wmfights (Psalm : 27)
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To: Iscool
WE'LL keep the scripture...

You are right that Protestants do have "scripture" (though not all of it). But Protestants do not have any authoritative determination of the canon of Scripture, nor any authoritative determination of the interpretation of Scripture. That is why there are over 20,000 Protestant sects.

Without Apostolic succession of bishops and a primacy even among the Apostles, every man becomes his own ultimate authority. For Protestants the following statement is true: "This [the Bible] is the book where everyone seeks his own proper opinion; This is the book where still everyone finds what he seeks", which is why there are so many Protestant sects. If you don't agree with what you're hearing from the pulpit, you can just keep walking down Main Street until you come to a group of people that believe and teach just what you believe, and if you are *really* picky, you just start your own church (thus nullifying Matt 18:17). To be one's own authority means in principle that there is no authority. Protestantism is the democritization of Christianity. But Christ did not set up a democracy; He gave authority to Twelve (and a unique authority to one of the Twelve). That Apostolic authority is what distinguishes between heresy and orthodoxy. That is why 'apostolicity' is one of the four marks of the Church listed in the Nicene Creed.

-A8

86 posted on 10/21/2006 2:40:40 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: Iscool
And you don't follow the bible anyway...

We don't follow [heretical interpretations of the] Bible. That is true.

-A8

1,908 posted on 10/30/2006 9:24:58 AM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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