To: Alamo-Girl; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan; Gamecock; HarleyD
To be led by the Holy Spirit is not to be sinless. It is, however, to finally begin to hate our sins and wish to flee from them. We won't be able to completely, of course. We are human beings, after all. Human beings are not God. Human beings sin.
But if we are led by the Holy Spirit, we will be sanctified in our Christian walk by Christ within us. We will sin less and less, knowing more and more how abhorrent our transgressions are to God who has shown us mercy.
It is our RC FRiends who think we must die in a state of sinlessness in order to merit heaven.
Protestants know that no one can merit salvation and that our redemption has already occurred by Christ's sacrifice on the cross for our sins. We have been redeemed.
"But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus" -- Ephesians 2:4-6
2,016 posted on
10/31/2006 1:00:45 AM PST by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
It is our RC FRiends who think we must die in a state of sinlessness in order to merit heaven. That is patently false.
-A8
2,021 posted on
10/31/2006 5:54:25 AM PST by
adiaireton8
("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Protestants know that ... our redemption has already occurred by Christ's sacrifice on the cross for our sins. But you don't know that, since you believe that Jesus did not die for everyone, but only for the elect. And you have no way of knowing whether you are elect. Therefore, you don't know whether Jesus died for you.
-A8
2,022 posted on
10/31/2006 5:56:25 AM PST by
adiaireton8
("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl
It is our RC FRiends who think we must die in a state of sinlessness in order to merit heaven. Jeepers, Dr. Eckleburg, that's news to me. Were this true, heaven would be empty. Were it possible for a person to "die in a state of sinlessness" by virtue of personal effort, then Christ's death on the Cross would have been unnecessary. Even the great saints were sinners.
2,025 posted on
10/31/2006 7:35:33 AM PST by
betty boop
(Beautiful are the things we see...Much the most beautiful those we do not comprehend. -- N. Steensen)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
To be led by the Holy Spirit is not to be sinless.
So very true. My point was this: if one truly cannot resist the Holy Spirit, then His indwelling would necessarily result in a sinless life thereafter, ergo the assertion doesn't stand.
To: Dr. Eckleburg
To be led by the Holy Spirit is not to be sinless. It is, however, to finally begin to hate our sins and wish to flee from them. We won't be able to completely, of course. We are human beings, after all. Human beings are not God. Human beings sin.
But if we are led by the Holy Spirit, we will be sanctified in our Christian walk by Christ within us. We will sin less and less, knowing more and more how abhorrent our transgressions are to God who has shown us mercy.
= = = =
VERY WELL PUT, imho.
Of course, doesn't apply to Calvinists . . . they have no choice about such things.
2,060 posted on
10/31/2006 1:42:19 PM PST by
Quix
(LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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