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To: Alamo-Girl; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Star Chamber
Let's look at more of John 12:

12:37 But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:

12:38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed ?

12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,

12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

12:41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.

12:42 Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

12:43 For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.

12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.

12:45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.

12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Not all Jews were the elect, the OT proves this many times. God has determined to save the elect, wherever and whoever they are. Just being born into a society, religious or otherwise, doesn't save anyone. God's will, not man's will is at work here.

1,943 posted on 10/30/2006 11:27:00 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (stand up, stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the Cross)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Just being born into a society, religious or otherwise, doesn't save anyone. God's will, not man's will is at work here.

So very true - on both points.

1,956 posted on 10/30/2006 12:55:59 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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