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To: Quix; adiaireton8
Thank you for your reply and for sharing your insights!

I very strongly agree with you Quix: IOW, when the Holy Spirit is quenched, all that remains is a worthless shell.

After posting last night about authority and unity, it dawned on me that there were a few additional things I should have said.

Truly, I surrender to God alone. That is absolute because I love Him absolutely.

But surrendering to Him also brings me into obedience to His will concerning families, government, etc.

Thus I do submit to my own husband (not to men in general) and I did submit to my parents who are now in heaven. Likewise I submit to government and its law enforcement officers. I also listen attentively to speakers who show all (not just a few) of the fruits of the Spirit: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self-control (Galatians 5:22-23 and Matthew 7). Nevertheless, I put whatever they say to the Berean test of Scripture which (as I have mentioned before) the indwelling Spirit brings alive in me. In this way, I only receive Truth which is revealed by the Spirit.

If I were a slave, I would submit to my master.

But none of these submissions, commanded by God in the Scriptures substitute for Him as the only one to Whom I surrender.

As Christ said in Matthew 22 - the first and greatest commandment is to love Him absolutely (paraphrased). The distant second is to love our neighbor unconditionally. On these two commandments "hang" all of the law and the prophets.

A good example of what happens when one gets her priorities turned upside down is Ananias' wife Sapphira in Acts 5. She was helping her husband but she was not surrendered to God. Her mortal life was brought to a hasty end.

Likewise, meditating on Revelation - even if the government demanded it, the religious authorities sanctioned it and even if my husband and/or parents demanded it and it were necessary to prevent my husband and children from dying from starvation - I would not accept the mark of the Beast to buy food or anything else.

And adiairton8, in reply to your post 1550: those who experience the indwelling Spirit as described in Romans 8, need no explanation, those who do not would not believe it anyway.

1,551 posted on 10/26/2006 9:34:30 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
those who experience the indwelling Spirit as described in Romans 8, need no explanation, those who do not would not believe it anyway.

That's what the Mormons say. So who should we believe, you or the Mormons?

-A8

1,552 posted on 10/26/2006 9:44:29 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Masterfully put.

Thanks for the encouragement.


1,569 posted on 10/26/2006 11:30:25 AM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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