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To: Cvengr
My point was that someone else baptized us. We do not baptize ourselves. Nor do we give ourselves the Eucharist. And likewise, someone else preaches to us. Someone else gives us a Bible, or tells us about the Bible. So many of the things we know about God we learn through other believers. Other people pray and intercede for us, maybe even rebuke us at times. Look at all the ways in which fellow believers are actively involved in the working out of our salvation. The individualistic notion of 'me and Jesus' is not true to the Christianity found in the Bible and throughout Church history. The Church plays a very important role in our salvation.

-A8

1,091 posted on 10/23/2006 4:00:56 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8

The Church plays virtually no role whatsoever in salvation. In sanctification and further works through faith in Him, we work with one another with our particular gifts from the Holy SPirit to perform good works and abide in the plan He has planned from eternity past.


1,093 posted on 10/23/2006 4:15:30 PM PDT by Cvengr
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