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To: adiaireton8

Yeah, but funny thing is that the church is characterized by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the filling of the Spirit. So when somebody doesn't get it,..they can't substitute or counterfeit it with anything that approaches the real thing. The 'it' to which I refer is the filling of the Holy Spirit indwelling us. If somebody else wants to pretend they have it, go ahead and let them. That's their business. There might be some issue at hand in the college of angelic heralds being demonstrably played out. Let the fool play his hand.

The only real consequence will come at the banquet feast in heaven and at the Great White Throne Judgment.


1,089 posted on 10/23/2006 3:58:06 PM PDT by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr
Yeah, but funny thing is that the church is characterized by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the filling of the Spirit. So when somebody doesn't get it,..they can't substitute or counterfeit it with anything that approaches the real thing. The 'it' to which I refer is the filling of the Holy Spirit indwelling us. If somebody else wants to pretend they have it, go ahead and let them.

So, how do we determine who has the Holy Spirit, and who doesn't? The Mormon says he has the Spirit. You say *you* have the Spirit. So how do we determine who is right? Your answer to this question, if I understand you correctly, is to conduct a subjective test: We should pray and seek God, and determine for ourselves who has the Spirit and who doesn't. Like I said earlier, that's a recipe for the fragmentation of the Church, for if you have 20,000 people, you will get 20,000 different notions of what the Spirit is saying.

This subjective and gnostic notion is completely alien to the first 1500 years of Christian orthodoxy. For the early and medieval Church, if you wanted to know who has the Spirit, you would see who had valid orders in succession from the Apostles.

-A8

1,141 posted on 10/23/2006 11:31:51 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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