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To: adiaireton8

Reread Romans 10 after returning to Him in faith and prayer so that He may guide your soul, spirit, and heart.

The 'anointing' or 'unction' is a synonym for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Whenever a is called by the Father and responds with faith in Christ alone, the Holy Spirit immediately is free to regenerate the unbeliever's spirit as he is now a believer. Once regenerated, the believer is indwelt by the Holy Spirit during this Church Age.

This doesn't occur during the Millenial Reign of Christ. It is a unique gift of the Church Age which places us all into his immediate royal family.

The Holy Spirit provides a temple in our body for the indwelling of the Father and of the Son. These are all outstanding motivations for attainment of spiritual objectives.

The passage in Romans provides enormous opportunity for the Holy Spirit to make these things understood to our spirit, but again only through faith in Christ. As soon as we step away from faith in Him, our soul is no longer filled with the Holy SPirit, rather we become carnal and lapse into our previous methods of thinking which were developed only in the soul and body, a scarred system of thinking void of a spirit filled life.

John 14:26 reiterates how the Holy Spirit is the one who teaches us the faith (doctrine) and brings the sound faith back to our memories.

An interesting observation about faith through Christ is that the indwelling of Spirit, Son and Father are all possible while we remain in faith through Him, whereas once we stray, He still indwells us as the Holy Spirit, positionally sanctifying us for salvation, but our sin grieves the Spirit and turns us to carnality rather than a Living God in a spirit filled life. If we continue to dwell in carnality, our sins will naturally turn to not only grieving the Holy Spirit, but in further degeneration of our thinking we will be tempted to even attack Him and quench the Holy SPirit. In extreme cases after divine discipline is repeatedly ignored are rebelled by the sinner, the degenerate believer might no longer serve a useful function in His plan and be called home.

Romans 10 helps to re-emphasis that our keeping in step with His filling is promoted not by critical thinking such as that of an adversarial accuser, but rather a spirit filled thinking placing all faith in Him through faith in Christ.

There are different gifts from the Holy Spirit for different believers. The gift of pastor-teacher is well described in Scripture. Not all pastors may have been gifted for all particular believers.

WRT Roman Catholicism, I rejoice at the many rigorous studies in faith which the RCC has fostered and recorded. There are many sound believers within the body and ecclesiastical offices of the RCC and many extend helps to believers in other denominations and environments.

Insofar as discerning the Spirit, it probably better to discern the filling of the Spirit rather than the indwelling, they are not the same. The filling of the Spirit is discerned again by the Spirit, not by us alone, as who knows the hearts of man other than the one who constantly searches our hearts.

We might be known by our fruits, which are evidence of things not seen, and they might reflect when some are filled and some not filled, but even that is very risky business, as the Lord may use many mysterious ways to fulfill His purpose after His own counsel.

GB


1,016 posted on 10/23/2006 12:28:30 PM PDT by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr
Reread Romans 10 after returning to Him in faith and prayer so that He may guide your soul, spirit, and heart.

I have, and I find your comment somewhat patronizing, as if I have never read Romans 10 in faith and prayer, and as if all disagreements between the 20,000+ Christian sects could be cleared up just by having them all read the Scriptures with faith and prayer. That's precisely what got us into the 20,000+ mess in the first place.

I've read through your post a couple times, and I still cannot find any explanation of how to determine who has the Spirit. It looks like another purely subjective determination.

-A8

1,023 posted on 10/23/2006 1:00:45 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: Cvengr

Well said.


1,031 posted on 10/23/2006 1:31:17 PM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (Blood-bought, born again, spirit-filled ..........................)
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