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To: adiaireton8
I'm not "trying to be difficult". I genuinely want to understand Quix's position. I think it is a bit presumptuous for you or Quix to assume that I don't have "the anointing". And I think it is rude for Quix to compare me to a "computer chip".

I'm really sorry that you were offended by anything I've said. I was wrong to assume, and I believe that quix was giving an analogy, not intending to insult you.

..or explain how it is that he determines who has the anointing. That is why it seems to me that he is part of some "secret club", because he won't reveal who are its members, and how one gets to be in the club, or how one determines who is "in" the club.

It's hard to take you seriously when you talk about secret clubs and membership. Being a spirit-filled, SURRENDERED Christion is not a club. It's not how you're bred, or what church you attend, or who your preacher is. IT's between you and the Lord. Many people are annointed at many different times. Nobody has a "I'm the annointed one" membership card.

Maybe instead of bantering back and forth with quix for your answer, which you won't find here; you can earnestly seek God about this. Only He can show you the truth about His annointing. (And please don't come back with "How do you know I don't already earnestly seek God about this?" as the line of your questions have gone.)

(I'm going to presume, again, that you really don't understand "the annointing" because of the way you've questioned and constantly put the words in parentheses, like it's something we made up .. forgive me if I'm wrong. But just in case..) Try praying something like: Father God, I'm so incredibly curious about this annointing that quix talks about. Father, forgive me if I've in any way offended You in reference to Your mighty gifts and awesome powers. It's about You, Father, not me. Help me to know You in a supernatural way. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Show me those areas in my life that I need to surrender more of to You. Father, I surrender all doubts, preconceived notions, and any thoughts that aren't in obedience with what You desire to work out in my life for YOUR glory. Father, I want Your Best for me, whatever that means, however that looks. Like that father whose son was healed (Mark 9), I say to you, "I do believe, help me overcome my unbelief." I just bless You and praise You with my whole being. Thank you for your Son, who is the bridge between You and I. Thank you for the Holy Spirit, who woos us, leads, and guides us. I just love you, Lord. In Jesus' Holy precious name. Amen.

Adaireton8, with all seriousness, if you are truly interested in the supernatural annointing of our Lord, go to HIM, with it. Use your own words, but be HONEST with Him. He loves You and will honor your GENUINE, no strings attached, longing to know him in a more supernatural way.

I'll be praying with you that you find your answers!

1,010 posted on 10/23/2006 12:10:43 PM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (Blood-bought, born again, spirit-filled ..........................)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
I appreciate your post. I wasn't offended by Quix's comment.

I'm not sure why you think it is hard to take me seriously when I talk about a "secret club". I'm not claiming that there really is a secret club. It is just that Pentecostal/charismatic types tend to make everything subjective, including the determination of who is or is not anointed. And as the "computer chip" comment reveals, those who ask how one determines who is anointed are treated as unenlightened uninitiated ones, those who have not yet received the 'gnosis'. The notion implied is, "If you have to ask, you obviously don't have it." That's what makes it seem like a secret club.

One problem with this subjective [gnostic] philosophy is that it fuels religious relativism and pluralism. It eliminates the possibility of Church unity, for it removes ecclesial hiearchy, gives each person the authority to do "what is right in his own eyes", and is in that way part of what foments the proliferation of Christian sects, contrary to Christ's prayer for unity in John 17 and Paul's comments in 1 Cor 1:10-13 and Eph 4:3-5.

-A8

1,020 posted on 10/23/2006 12:40:03 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal

AMEN! Interesting we both felt the same urge to encourage going TO GOD about it at roughly the same point in the thread.


1,046 posted on 10/23/2006 1:56:17 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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