Posted on 10/21/2006 4:52:03 AM PDT by NYer
God knows my lack of rebellion.
God also knows that "rebellion" against error, human stuff contrary to Him and His ways
is a LOT better
than rebellion against God.
Thanks much.
Am humbled by your kind words.
Happy sleep.
Yes it was!
Dittos
And still we (I) fall short.
Certainly true of all of us, including me.
No king but Christ.
Sola Fide
Sola Scripture
Sola Gratia
Solus Christus
Soli Deo Gloria
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -- 1 Timothy 2:5
I spent a good bit of time reading through this thread today.
A lot of it is over my head. But the thing that stands out is that, despite the disagreements, towards the end, people are returning to civility.
Perhaps there's hope for us sinners yet. ;^)
THANKFULLY, THAT'S WHO CHRIST DIED FOR, US.
Thanks much for your kind words.
PRAISE GOD FOR HIS FAITHFULNESS in being the author and finisher of our faith.
GOD ALONE IS WORTHY.
I can only say this. I decided to leave the Catholic church because I read the Bible. The power to loose and bind cannot trump God's Word.
FJ, you obviously have a lot of passion for your faith. I admire this zeal. The simple fact is that the Catholic Church, headed by one man, is not what is laid out in the scriptures. The Church you attend may be able to trace its roots to the Apostles, namely Paul, but Rome being the center of Christianity with a supreme Pontiff simply did not occur until the council of Nicea.
**I'm going over that link you gave me and I can't find a darn thing about your doctrinal beliefs or a Statement of Faith. I'll keep browsing it.**
The home page has those topics and more, just click on them. I'm just barely above computer illiterate.
**That said, we are FOLLOWING Jesus command which say to Baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. See St. Matthew 28:19.**
Repeating a command is not necessarily following a command.
What is the name of the Father?
There are several names of God, in Hebrew and Greek, that men are aware of, but only Jesus is the saving name chosen by God to redeem fallen man.
Acts 4:12 "..there is none other NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved".
Heb. 1:4 "..as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent NAME..".
John 5:43 Jesus said: "I am come in my Father's NAME....".
Col. 3:17 "And whatsoever ye do in word or deed,do all in the NAME of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him."
The name of the Son is Jesus. No doubt about that.
What is the name of the Holy Ghost?
John 14:26 Jesus said: "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in MY NAME,..".
That is why the apostles baptized in the NAME of Jesus.
They knew the NAME (singular) of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Jesus.
saved from everlasting condemnation and given eternal life.
Catholics read the Bible. I sincerely regret that those you knew when you were Catholic did not or did not instruct you in this way.
I, too, converted to the Catholic Church and my life has been rich in Scripture since that time. I'm able to search it every day--as Salvation's daily Mass Readings indicate--and this I can do practicing lectio divina. In a 4-week cycle I also can pray the 150 Psalms in the Divine Office (now called the Liturgy of the Hours).
There are more of us than it appears who are committed to daily Scripture reading and meditation. Maybe we should be talking about that more.
I understand that you feel that it wasn't there for you in the Catholic Church. But nevertheless, a generalization about Catholics not reading the Bible is not a true picture.
Personal experience doesn't make generalizations into the fullness of truth.
I could say that I left a Protestant church because of this or that reason, but I would much rather say that I first learned some of Bible there, but I found the fullness of faith in the Catholic Church. I never felt it necessary to disparage what I left. It served no good purpose.
**To say that God "appointed" Christ invalidates the Trinity.**
I don't know if 'appointed' is as accurate as 'anointed' or 'ordained'.
In the words of Peter (the original subject of the thread):
"How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power..". Acts 10:38
"..it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of the quick and the dead." Acts 10:42
I'm sure Peter understood the Godhead, too. If anyone would say otherwise, they would be insulting the Lord, for he taught his disciples, and before ascending, opened their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures.
May I say BRAVO to this post? And AMEN as well!
That said, my parents refuse to read the Bible. They do not believe it is their place in the Catholic Church.
I left the Catholic Church because it contradicts scripture.
Well, I guess that's for a whole new surge of threads--just like all the ones that have gone before.
"Thank you for that post. It might well be perfect.
Yes it was!"
I was about to jump in and say the exact same thing, (okay, not worded quite so perfectly!) when I refreshed the page and read your response. You saved me a lot of typing. ;-)
Thank you!
I am confused on something and you seem to be pretty knowledgeable. Does the Catholic Church still stand by Jerome's and Eusebius's historical scholarship regarding the dates of Peter's alleged Bishopric in Rome? According to them it was from 42 to 67 AD --- 25 years. Does the Catholic Church still hold to that Tradition or have they backed away from it?
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