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You know, as much as I've had cordial discussions with you two, BlackElk and bornacatholic (more or less), it really is time for me to express my disgust at your behavior on threads like these. You've pretty much acted like malcontents. You're all too ready to condemn, promise punishments, in addition to your general language, ad nauseum. I've had enough. I've never placed one toe in a SSPX chapel, and I've witnessed some of the outlandish language in cyberspace associated with the SSPX and its supporters, but when it comes to FR, you two take the cake when it comes to over-the-top, sometimes wacko language towards your Catholic brethren. You should be ashamed of yourselves, and there is nothing you can say that can justify such hatred.

We all know how much you hate the SSPX, but it's time you just keep it to yourself. Your act is past old.

Good night.

Pyro7480: Are you referencing excommunicated schismatics as "fellow Catholics?" What is your basis? That is why the posts are necessary since some who "have never set foot in an SSPX chapel" seem confused as to the meaning of excommunicated and as to the meaning of schismatic.

If I remember correctly, I have been around Catholicism a lot longer than you have. I have never in my life witnessed vituperation directed against a pope, much less a pope as magnificent as John Paul the Great, as was directed by these excommunicated cultists posing as Catholics. I am quite contented with pope and Vatican. I am not contented with the SSPX enemies of the Church. You don't agree. Fine. Should I care? Should your errors change my mind?

What you are basically saying, after several years of cozying up to the faux "traditionalists", is that we should adopt a stance of Kumbaya and hand-holding them. I know I won't. If you don't like that, too bad. How do you accept and cuddle SSPX's campaign of hatred against John Paul the Great?????

You are probably a decent young man but your response to SSPX does not make you an exemplar or particularly insightful. If you don't care for that opinion, I see no reason to care for yours. Your willingness to be an apologist for the excommunicated enemies of the Church does not become you. BAC and I have nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of in our pinning the tail on the SSPX donkey.

Let's see you exercise yourself in defense of John Paul the Great against the malignant schism.

One of my favorite authors, the great Catholic, Flannery O'Connor, explains, in "Mystery and Manners" that she wrote as she did because..(pharaphrasing) "to the hard of hearing you yell and for the hard of sight you paint with big bold letters."

I think those in the schism are blind. Humor, outrageousnes, hyperbole, outlandishness etc are tools meant to pry the scales from their eyes.

I thoroughly enjoy BE's rhetoric as a Catholic Militant. He is a Christian man in the best sense of the word. He fights with the tools His Lord and Saviour Blessed him with. He is intelligent, witty, extremely well-educated, deeply and widely read, masculine, bold, outrageous funny and everything I would want in a neighbor.

He fights like a true Catholic Traditionalist.

Even after reading this you may be disgusted. C'est la Vie. My skin is thicker than Hilary's arse.

For my part, I think fighting over the Faith almost as much a masculine treasure and pleasure as rooting for Lord Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders and listening to Jerry Lee Lewis and reading The Gospel of St. John