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1 posted on 10/16/2006 8:27:22 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 10/16/2006 8:27:49 AM PDT by NYer ("It is easier for the earth to exist without sun than without the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.” PPio)
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Fellay envisages the SSPX would be an independent group within the Church, free of control by local bishops, while it continued to advocate rolling back other Vatican II reforms.

I think he's in for a very rude awakening.

3 posted on 10/16/2006 8:31:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Memo to Fellay Mignon:

Even though you're French, you're not an Emperor.

Hell, you're not even the Pope.

You're a bishop . . . and a bishop whose consecration was without Apostolic Mandate.

If you think that's no small matter to Pope Benedict XVI, think again.

Anyhow . . . dealing with the SSPX is a little like dealing with the Muslims: no self-criticism and no reciprocity.

I think the Pope has well and truly called their bluff: establish a Religious Institute for those who want to come back and issue a moto proprio regarding the Traditional Mass . . . and then, as a parent to tantrum-prone children, OK - NOW WHAT IS IT?


4 posted on 10/16/2006 8:42:31 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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The traditionalists also reject the Council decision that the Church, which long saw itself as the only path to salvation, should respect and work together with other faiths.


The Church does say it is the only path to salvation, no? It is just a bit more tolerant now than it may have been...?


8 posted on 10/16/2006 9:51:12 AM PDT by DTwistedSisterS
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Hey, sister, isn't it funny we keep getting these "the Pope is gonna cave to the sspx" rumors? They all seem to go in cycles. There will be long periods of rumorless sanity and then, all of a sudden, we get these stories quoting Fellay predicting the Pope will do this or that favorable to the schism.

I think it all agit/prop. Fellay KNOWS his schism is dead and so he needs to "keep hope alive" in the schism. He keeps floating this nonsense Rome is about to cave to keep the Hive happy and to keep those donations coming in.

If those who succor the schism ever figure out the schism leads only to Hell, Fellay is toast. Outside of the schism nobody knows or cares about him. He has to both keep Schism alive whle at the same time engaging in non-productive agit/prop about putative deals to keep his face in the news and to keep the Hive happily buzing about their impending Traditional Triumph.

When the schism ends, so does Fellay's celebrity. Don't neglect the role of Pride in Fellay's agit/prop.

Each failed deal is blamed on modernist Rome and each failed deal is cast as a triumph of Tradition and its supporters. It is all so predictable because it has been endlessly repeated the past 20 years.

That few in the schism can see this is yet another indication the schism breeds insanity.

It is said insanity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting different results. If that doesn't describe the sspx schism's agit/prop, what does?

12 posted on 10/16/2006 10:14:32 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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BUMP!


16 posted on 10/16/2006 11:03:55 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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Bishop Fellay. Cardinal Ratzinger is over 75. In three more years, they will all be out of governing positions in the Curia. The Council is their baby, so to speak. It is very difficult to attack the Council in front of somebody who made it; he will by all means try to defend it.

*LMAO Here you have a schismatic Bishop speaking openly about attacking an Ecumenical Council and treating it as though it was the personal project of Cardinals Medina dn Ratzinger and still we are supposed to think the Pope is gong surrender the Keys to these Protestants in Fiddlebacks.

Insanity insanity. all is insanity within the schism

18 posted on 10/16/2006 11:16:42 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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"Fellay envisages the SSPX would be an independent group within the Church, free of control by local bishops, while it continued to advocate rolling back other Vatican II reforms.

"We would be a bit like the Chinese Patriotic Church, in the Church without really being there," he explained. "There could be a relationship between Rome and us, but it would not yet be a juridical relationship.""

In other words...there really isn't going to be any reconciliation at all any time soon.
This is non-news.


89 posted on 10/17/2006 5:51:28 AM PDT by Scotswife
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A prayer for unity.


92 posted on 10/17/2006 7:54:39 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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