To: betty boop
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I believe the only people suggesting that modern proteins leapt together fully formed are those using rather tired strawmen, such as Schroeder, or now yourself.
As VadeRetro has already pointed out and you have already ignored, the odds of your own existence is roughly 2 to the power of 2 billion according to this silly game. "It's as if someone reached into a grab bag and pulled out 2 billion base pairs in the correct order!"
Bottom line: You can't assign equal probability to each combination. There are certain factors like, you know, physical forces, which skew the outcome. The burden is on the abiogenesists to make convincing cases for possible pathways, and until then I humbly invite you to believe in an extra-terrestrial origin of terrestrial life, but you will be unable to end the matter prematurely with outrageous probability computations and a complete disregard for the relevant science.
To: aNYCguy; betty boop
To: aNYCguy; Alamo-Girl
Bottom line: You can't assign equal probability to each combination. There are certain factors like, you know, physical forces, which skew the outcome. The burden is on the abiogenesists to make convincing cases for possible pathways.... I'd be a Bayesian, and so would be pleased if the abiogenesists "could make convincing cases for possible pathways." I think they will need to grapple with the problem of how intelligence arose in nature. For it seems you don't have life without some form of intelligence, be it simple awareness or responsive sensitivity, on through consciousness that we observe in the higher species, and self-consiousness which appears limited to humans.
You wrote: "I humbly invite you to believe in an extra-terrestrial origin of terrestrial life." Whoa, you infer too much. I believe in an extra-cosmic origin of the universe. The singularity had to have a "non-natural" cause for the simple reason that in the void there is no space or time, no matter, no nuthin' that could be the cause of anything.
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10/04/2006 6:34:41 AM PDT by
betty boop
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