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To: js1138; Alamo-Girl; cornelis; hosepipe; PatrickHenry; Stultis; FreedomProtector; King Prout; ...
You flashed on the "anti-creationist" statement. Beyond that, you should know (and let me be the first to clue you in) Yockey is also nominally "anti-ID."

Reasons: Yockey knows in the first case that the origin of life and the universe are either unknowable or undecideable according to scientific methodology -- though perfectly consistent with the physico-chemical laws. In the latter case, he has bought into the idea widely current these days that ID is synonymous with "special creation." I agree with him on the first point, but disagree on the second.

Still, Yockey is transfixed by the mathematical problems involved in the genetic code; just to speak of a code is to speak of an intelligence.... (Codes don't construct themselves.)

WRT anything else he says in these passages (regarding an earlier work, not the 2005 work that I've been citing), I have no disagreement at all.

1,689 posted on 09/28/2006 4:45:25 PM PDT by betty boop (Beautiful are the things we see...Much the most beautiful those we do not comprehend. -- N. Steensen)
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To: betty boop

I think his email speaks for itself, without interpretation. Sorry about the boldface. Some people might not otherwise read past the first sentence.

I do not personally consider myself smarter than Yockey, so I find nothing wrong with his characterization of the origin of life as completely natural.

And I think he is correct that recent DNA studies have put "Darwinian" evolution beyond doubt.

He's a good man. Thank you for convincing me to check him out.


1,693 posted on 09/28/2006 4:56:24 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: betty boop
...just to speak of a code is to speak of an intelligence.... (Codes don't construct themselves.)

He's a bright man, and honest. I trust his judgement that the origin of life is natural.

1,694 posted on 09/28/2006 4:58:44 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; cornelis; .30Carbine; Whosoever
[ Still, Yockey is transfixed by the mathematical problems involved in the genetic code; just to speak of a code is to speak of an intelligence.... (Codes don't construct themselves.) ]

A heavy(weighty) statement that(above) except for crystals.. Crystals have "a" "code".. Many things crystalize according to their "code".. An almost "intelligent" code.. Crystalography is extremely interesting.. Un-intelligent "matter/energy" that displays a code.. How this relates to this conversation I dunno but it somehow seems resonant to me.. I "feel" it relates.. Something about crystals intriques me spiritually.. Totally inanimate matter/energy crystals are, but as you say, "codes don't construct themselves"

1,698 posted on 09/28/2006 8:28:12 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: betty boop

Do you mind not shotgun pinging me to posts that are not replies to my posts, are not about me, and are not about something I've been talking about?


1,729 posted on 09/29/2006 5:14:40 AM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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