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To: js1138; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; cornelis; .30Carbine; Whosoever
[ The problem is that science is apolitical, and people as individuals are not. ]

Science is/are people(scientists).. People (scientists) can easily be in a 2nd reality.. and will/can adjust their "science" to that reality.. its back to the "observer" problem.. Some scientists are SoupNazis.. others are George Costanza's.. yet others are Kramers..

Too flippant about this(me)?... Maybe... Discussing science can be FUN..

1,644 posted on 09/28/2006 12:11:16 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: hosepipe

The reason science differs from all other methods of acquiring knowledge is that the process of doing science and arguing science weeds out individual prejudices.

Science is driven by what works, and that is beyond the control of philosophy, religion, politics and ambition. Frauds are weeded out with a vengeance. Those who falsify data are never taken seriously again.

There are huge personal incentives to find errors in other people's work. The raw data collected by researchers is reanalyzed by others. Statistical tests are done to detect fudged data.

Because of this, the number of hoaxes and frauds in science can be listed on a page -- most detected within a few years -- while hucksters in religion and politics enjoy lifetimes of personal success.


1,649 posted on 09/28/2006 12:21:50 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: hosepipe

Missing out on FUN thread discussing absolutely perfect 'observer' scientists, who of course never have any presuppositions, bookmark. Never ever in my entire life have I ever been sarcastic about anything.


1,656 posted on 09/28/2006 12:34:36 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: hosepipe
Science is/are people(scientists).. People (scientists) can easily be in a 2nd reality.. and will/can adjust their "science" to that reality..

For some reason, Dawkins, Singer, Pinker and Lewontin came to mind. LOL!

1,708 posted on 09/28/2006 9:58:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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.. its back to the "observer" problem..

I agree, Pipe; the study called Science ought to be unbiased and completely factual, but as all can see now, it is not; it has become a my-science-right-or-wrong belief system for some and a barometer of belief to others.

1,726 posted on 09/29/2006 3:01:53 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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