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To: js1138; ahayes; betty boop; cornelis; PatrickHenry
The "Oooooooh. Great minds and so forth. " in your post 1453 to ahayes is the reason I lumped my reply to the both of you.

I was taken by surprise considering how long you have been on the forum and all your posts which I have read, the major points of which are fairly summed up at 1493.

In your list, item 6 is the point I've been trying to underscore over and again in our little sidebar. You said:

We have strong evidence that all living things on earth are related by common descent.

That of course, is the evolutionary tree of life - which means life comes from life under Darwin's theory of evolution because he did not address the inception of life at all (abiogensis v biogenesis).

It is a continuum. Darwin's presupposition, his very theory is built on "omne vivum ex vivo" which IS the Law of Biogenesis.

1,514 posted on 09/26/2006 3:06:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Darwin's presupposition, his very theory is built on "omne vivum ex vivo" which IS the Law of Biogenesis.

That is incorrect. The origin of life is outside the scope of the ToE.

1,518 posted on 09/26/2006 3:20:14 PM PDT by LibertarianSchmoe ("...yeah, but, that's different!" - mating call of the North American Ten-Toed Hypocrite)
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To: Alamo-Girl
It is a continuum. Darwin's presupposition, his very theory is built on "omne vivum ex vivo" which IS the Law of Biogenesis.

Sorry, but this is simply wrong in every possible way.

  1. Evolution can happen regardless of how life started.
  2. Evolution can happen regardless of how many times life independently started.
  3. You are conflating a process with a specific history.
  4. There is nothing about the process of evolution that requires common descent. We just happen to have a lot of evidence that common descent describes life on earth.
  5. Darwin never said or implied life only comes from life. In Origin he said evolution begins with the first living cell.
  6. Later he is on record speculating about abiogenesis
  7. Biogenesis and evolution are not tied together by necessity. They may or may not be tied together by fact.

1,520 posted on 09/26/2006 3:27:03 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Darwin's presupposition, his very theory is built on "omne vivum ex vivo" which IS the Law of Biogenesis.

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1,524 posted on 09/26/2006 4:14:58 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (When the Inquisition comes, you may be the rackee, not the rackor.)
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