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Darwin on the Right: Why Christians and conservatives should accept evolution
Scientific American ^
| October 2006 issue
| Michael Shermer
Posted on 09/18/2006 1:51:27 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: King Prout
To: andysandmikesmom
thank you. we must all avoid vitriol as well as we may, after all.
882
posted on
09/21/2006 5:00:13 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
To: Celtjew Libertarian
There are lots of volcanoes an floods, earthquakes and hurricanes. In central America they even have a word for jaguars falling out of the sky. All this centuries before the NFL.
With things like this happening in an average person's lifetime, why do we need to suppose that cultural memories are likely to be passed on for tens of thousands of years.
883
posted on
09/21/2006 5:01:09 PM PDT
by
js1138
(The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
To: King Prout
Yes, indeed, vitriol avoidance is a virtue, which hopefully we can all adopt...
To: js1138
Republicans are slitting their own throats by abandoning science Still waiting for your proof on this statement...
crickets...
885
posted on
09/21/2006 5:05:10 PM PDT
by
NewLand
(Always Remember September 11, 2001)
To: NewLand; js1138
I expect you'll have to wait until the mid-Novembers of '06 and '08 for any reasonable chance of receiving the "proof" you demand
886
posted on
09/21/2006 5:08:42 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
To: js1138
In central America they even have a word for jaguars falling out of the sky.???
887
posted on
09/21/2006 5:10:00 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
To: NewLand
It's a matter of voter perception as much as anything. People in the science community have this perception, and the Luddites on FR feed the perception.
Take a look at the posts condemning empiricism, naturalism, funding of basic research. Take a look at the posts favoring abandoning the teaching of scientific reasoning and methodology. We have a guy, an intelligent, literate guy on FR, arguing geocentrism. None of the anti-evolutionists have the courage or the knowledge to confront him. This seems to be the new majority among Republicans.
888
posted on
09/21/2006 5:11:57 PM PDT
by
js1138
(The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
889
posted on
09/21/2006 5:12:08 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
To: js1138
ooo! you stole my bragging right!
890
posted on
09/21/2006 5:12:37 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
To: King Prout
891
posted on
09/21/2006 5:14:15 PM PDT
by
js1138
(The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
To: King Prout
You can hold out for 6969
892
posted on
09/21/2006 5:16:17 PM PDT
by
js1138
(The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
To: js1138
There are lots of volcanoes an floods, earthquakes and hurricanes. In central America they even have a word for jaguars falling out of the sky. All this centuries before the NFL With things like this happening in an average person's lifetime, why do we need to suppose that cultural memories are likely to be passed on for tens of thousands of years.
Why should we suppose it was forgotten?
There are many myths in many cultures, but the flood story seems pervasive in almost every culture, with many similarities between cultures that are widely spread apart.
We have an apparent genetic bottleneck in the human race. We have an apparent megadisater that happened about the time of the bottleneck. We have widespread myth that seems that it could be a orally passed-on account of that disaster. Why not suppose that is what it is?
I believe evolution has been the primary mechanism for the development of life on Earth. I do not believe in a six-thousand year old world and universe. However, I don't feel any need to go out of my way to debunk the Genesis account, particularly when I think Genesis can be interpreted to be in general accord with science.
I simply don't have a need in either/or. I have a belief in both. I try to make them mesh. And when they don't I'm quite content to shrug my shoulders and live with the contradiction, until I can resolve it to my satisfaction.
893
posted on
09/21/2006 5:17:35 PM PDT
by
Celtjew Libertarian
("Don't take life so seriously. You'll never get out of it alive." -- Bugs Bunny)
To: js1138
894
posted on
09/21/2006 5:21:11 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
To: andysandmikesmom
Yes, indeed, vitriol avoidance is a virtue, which hopefully we can all adopt... Stick with Geritol.
895
posted on
09/21/2006 5:22:01 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Science-denial is not conservative. It's reality-denial and it's unhealthy.)
To: js1138
I hope you do science better than you do political analysis.
896
posted on
09/21/2006 5:22:02 PM PDT
by
NewLand
(Always Remember September 11, 2001)
To: Celtjew Libertarian
No one is going to be around to remember a supervolcano. There is hardly any orally transmitted history of the year without a summer, or the little ice age, or the seven mile wide tornado that ripped through the American midwest last century.
On the other hand, there are lots of vague stories and legends of catastrophes. There are plenty of them in every generation.
897
posted on
09/21/2006 5:22:58 PM PDT
by
js1138
(The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
To: King Prout
898
posted on
09/21/2006 5:23:46 PM PDT
by
js1138
(The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
To: js1138
that page's format makes my eyes hurt.
899
posted on
09/21/2006 5:24:09 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
To: King Prout
900
posted on
09/21/2006 5:24:45 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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