Posted on 09/18/2006 1:51:27 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
thank you, and you are welcome to it.
I'm not sure it CAN be usefully distilled, but please let me know if you succeed.
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You have content? As far as I can see, you have asserted that the Bible is historically inerrant. A common opinion, but not one that makes any sense to me.
one point: were the synthetic theory of evolution to be faithfully developed into a sociopolitical philosophy, it would be antithetical to socialism.
socialism, in a nutshell, essentially has the artificially determined welfare of the species determining the daily lives and fates of the individuals within its population.
it also contains as a root tenet that all individuals are identical and interchangeable.
a philosophy extrapolated from evolution would have the daily lives and fates of the individuals naturally determine the status of the species they comprise.
it would also have as a central tenet that all individuals are unique, that none are precisely interchangeable, that distribution of characteristics are NOT equally distributed.
this "evolution-based" philosophy strongly resembles the the ideal of individualistic elitist meritocracy towards which capitalistic free societies aspire.
Your error has been corrected.
whether you choose to incorporate that correction into your thinking is up to you.
'CAPSLOCK FESTIVAL' PLACEMARKER
This is the third time I have corrected you. The global flood is not confirmed by archaeology and history.
But this is the religion forum. All ideas are deserving of respect.
1. How does anyone really know when that man lived/dies? carbon 12 or 14? Bah!
Radiocarbon dating, presence of now-extinct animals, artifacts, etc. are all used in dating. (One's lack of trust in radiocarbon dating does not constitute scientific data.)
2. Had the same DNA as folk LIVING TODAY...so what's the diff?
The same mtDNA implies direct descent. It also shows that the mtDNA of Noah's spouse etc. does not replace the Native American mtDNA haplogroup during that 10,000 year period.
3. China has a character in their alphabet of a boat and 8 human figures...Hmmm, why is that?
Beats me. I don't study China. Probably an interesting coincidence.
4. China, Native American Indians, and most cultures world-wide DO have a global flood story...Hmmmm, why is that?
They live near water. They have some great flood stories from New Orleans too.
What this mtDNA evidence shows is that there was no global flood. There are a lot of other lines of evidence which show the same thing. Early geologists (probably all creationists) gave up searching for evidence of a global flood about 1830.
there is no way to absolutely prove a negative.
however, there is absolutely no evidence that a global flood as described in Genesis occurred, and ample evidence that it did not.
specifically:
- there is no evidence of a worldwide inundation within the last 6000 years
- there is no evidence of a species-wide genetic bottleneck within the last 6000 years
- there is no evidence of a global inundation which submerged all land underwater at the same time EVER in the geologic column
- there IS significant evidence of continuous human habitation and continuous bloodlines extending well earlier than 6000 years ago - pre-flood, pre-genesis.
- there IS substantial evidence of a period of worldwide COASTAL inundation, as sea-levels rose several tens of meters at the end of the last Ice Age, 15,000 to 8,000 years ago - pre-flood, pre-genesis.
- there IS substantial evidence of INLAND flooding, in discrete successive waves, as the icelocked reservoirs of meltwater were catastrophically unleashed as ice-walls failed. Again, well before the "global flood" detailed in genesis. Moreover, the survival of these evidences of pre-genesis floods argues VERY strongly that the genesis-flood could NOT have happened.
that's all off the cuff.
the specialists, including those you have been casually dismissing here of late, will gladly give you detailed information if you demonstrate a will to learn.
well, with all the argumentum ad CAPSLOK that fellow set forth, i thought a "low key" response might be in order
:D
Did this EXCLUDE being a total nutcase too??? ;^)
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But this is the religion forum. All ideas are deserving of respect.
And apparently, idea = any thought at all.
Big Bang = "Let their be light." Pretty easy there.
BTW, did you see my post #619?
So does Noah!
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