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To: ninenot

"Apparently compared to you I live in Paradise. I can find at least 5 "straight-up" NO Masses without driving more than 20 miles 1 way, PLUS a Diocesan-authorized TridRite."

I can't find a single Mass that my 19-year-old daughter will return to a second time. No reverence, platoons of lay eucharist dispensers, horrible musak, heretical homilies...the stench of modernism in the Boise Diocese would knock a buzzard off a corpse wagon. The only two Latin Masses listed are in towns hundreds of miles from Boise -- about as far away from the Bishop as you can get and stay in Idaho -- and I'm not even sure those are still there.

"Remember that SSPX has not been declared to be "leading people astray."

Well, then, it wouldn't seem that there is sufficient reason to get all that het up about it, would it?

"It's interesting, too, that the situation is blatantly ambiguous."

Yes, it does seem odd that a Mass celebrated by an excommunicated priest satisfies one's Sunday obligation.

"I suspect that some of the SSPX muckety-mucks will MAKE them into dealbreakers if the Vat offers the Tridentine with no strings."

With no strings means that they cannot be required to celbrate or concelebrate the N.O., or forbidden to say the Tridentine (except for legitimate disciplinary reasons).

If the Holy Father prepares a proclamation to that effect, I look for an assassination attempt.

"There is simply no good evidence that B-16/Ratzinger EVER tried to submarine the Old Rite or SSPX."

Didn't he support the imposition of the N.O.?

"he is VERY concerned about the BuggerBugnini club's smashing of the altars (lit. and fig.)"

That's comforting.

"He is also not likely to return the Church as a whole to the Old Rite"

I'd be satisfied if he stripped the modernists of their authority to forbid it.

"That's why the Establishment of Modernism hates his guts."

I really hope you're right about that.

"Remember that his speech in Regensburg was not solely directed at the heresy of Mohamet."

I don't see that. The subject was violence in the name of religion.


173 posted on 09/19/2006 4:45:09 PM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc

No, the subject was the conjunction of faith and reason.

B-16 scored those in the West who, following Descartes, have (in effect) begun worship of the god of science rather than the God who Made Science.


174 posted on 09/20/2006 11:48:20 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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