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To: dsc
They still intend to stomp out the Tridentine once and for all.

Hardly, a simple method for that would be to absolutly excommunicate anyone who attends a SSPX chapel, and that has not happened.

My point was not to fire off another war, but to point out a protest is not in keeping with Catholic practice. Thomas a Kempis would not protest, Padre Pio would not protest, and even when the Chinese Church is being chastized you don't see protest. Protest is ineffective.

The pretext for declining the Indult was given by those who protested, if they hadn't protested, they would have forced the Bishop to give a less sound reason.
128 posted on 09/17/2006 8:17:49 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Dominick

"Hardly, a simple method for that would be to absolutly excommunicate anyone who attends a SSPX chapel, and that has not happened."

No, your argument is not correct. The fact that the modernists haven't been able to excommunicate everyone who attends an SSPX chapel doesn't mean they wouldn't if they could. Several bishops have tried to sanction people who go to SSPX masses, and have been reversed (too gently) by the Vatican.

Additionally, the modernists cannot act too blatantly, because they still need to maintain plausible deniability, the pretext that they are operating out of faith and in the interest of the faithful.

It is true of both political and ecclesial leftists that they must hide their true natures and intentions from the people they plan to rule.

And finally, we must reflect that, were it not for SSPX, the Tridentine Mass would not today be available anywhere on the surface of the planet, to anyone. The modernists came that close to final victory.

"My point was not to fire off another war, but to point out a protest is not in keeping with Catholic practice. Thomas a Kempis would not protest, Padre Pio would not protest"

Thomas a Becket would, and so would Thomas Moore. Joan of Arc was instructed to take to the battlefield. I think you are completely mistaken about that.

"even when the Chinese Church is being chastized you don't see protest."

We don't see anything because of the news blackout by the Chicoms. None of us knows what is going on there.

"Protest is ineffective."

Do you really believe that? Amazing.

"The pretext for declining the Indult was given by those who protested, if they hadn't protested, they would have forced the Bishop to give a less sound reason."

A pretext is still a pretext, and therefore invalid and wrongful, no matter who gave it to whom. You cannot be paralyzed in the face of evil by the notion that evil will seize on any action as a pretext to do what it was going to do anyway.

Further, if they hadn't protested, the bishop wouldn't have had to give "a less sound reason." He wouldn't have had to give any reason to anyone. It was only the protests that forced him to go on record with a transparent pretext, demonstrating that he has no sound reasons.

Modernists in positions of authority are now abusing safeguards designed to protect faithful clergy to shield themselves in their wrongdoing.


129 posted on 09/17/2006 9:23:24 AM PDT by dsc
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