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To: flaglady47; ninenot; sittnick; Convert from ECUSA; Tax-chick
I am not trying to stifle your speech. I simply object to the bad manners of those not Catholic who deem it their responsibility to instruct Catholics as to the internal business of our Church which is not theirs or apparently yours. That objection is MY free speech and its expression in no way stifles yours. Get it????? You may well have a right to express yourself but conservatives are generally sophisticated enough to grasp that free speech and a right to be free of enthusiastic criticism in response are two clean different things.

If you or anyone else chooses to hurl ignorant insults at my Church, you are not entitled to be emotionally cuddled in return by members of that Church.

I could have a lot of fun here over the Episcopalian soi disant bishop Vicki Gene Robinson or over the Rev. Messrs. Jimmy Swaggert or Jim Bakker but I do not because they are absolutely none of my Catholic business. I leave any criticism of them to the Episcopalians in the case of Robinson and the Assemblies of God members as to the other two.

Your only partially valid analogy is to the Jewish faith as opposed to Jewish ancestry. Choosing to be or to remain a Jew or a Catholic is a matter of choice not an immutable condition of ancestry. If someone is born black, born Hispanic or born of Jewish ancestry and you were to criticize them as to their respective ancestries, you would be a flat out bigot. If you disagree with Roman Catholicism or Judaism, feel free (we are a free country and Catholics believe very strongly in free will and are not, trust me, really anxious to draft anyone much less you) but, if you choose to exercise "free speech" by attacking either Catholicism or Judaism, do not whine when Catholics or Jews return verbal fire in their own respective exercises in "free speech" as to what is none of your non-Catholic or non-Jewish business.

I make an exception as to Islam during the War on Terror but last I checked, neither Catholicism nor Judaism have declared war on my country.

You can form whatever opinions you like as to Catholicism or Judaism. If you are rude enough to express those opinions in attacks on either faith, get your asbestos undies ready, honey. Nothing protects your "free speech" or that of the poster to whom I was responding any more than mine is protected.

109 posted on 09/16/2006 12:04:14 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
You may well have a right to express yourself but conservatives are generally sophisticated enough to grasp that free speech and a right to be free of enthusiastic criticism in response are two clean different things. If you or anyone else chooses to hurl ignorant insults at my Church, you are not entitled to be emotionally cuddled in return by members of that Church.

A marvelously cogent statement of a point that should NOT have to be made to any conservative!

"Your right to free speech does not cancel my right to tell you to shut up. My right to tell you to shut up doesn't mean you HAVE to shut up."

115 posted on 09/16/2006 5:47:23 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("If you're going through Hell, keep on going! Don't look back ... if you're scared, don't show it!")
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To: BlackElk

Nailed it!


143 posted on 09/18/2006 5:24:17 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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