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Mary’s Assumption is hope for today’s society, says Pope
Asia News ^ | August 16, 2006 | Benedict XVI

Posted on 08/16/2006 7:22:39 PM PDT by ELS

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To: Carolina

Thank you for posting those images. They are beautiful.


41 posted on 08/18/2006 9:07:39 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Kolokotronis; Carolina; livius
the vitality of the Byzantine style in Italy

If you haven't visited Ravenna, yet, you might want to add it to your itinerary. Ravenna was the Italian seat of Byzantium and has quite a collection of Byzantine art. Most notable are the basilicas of San Vitale and Sant'Apollinare in Classe.

A virtual tour of Basilica di Sant'Apollinare in Classe

Images of the interior of Basilica di San Vitale

The Churches of Ravenna: An Early Christian Picture Show

42 posted on 08/18/2006 9:37:32 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ELS

Another place I want to see. My wife says I'm fixated on Greece! :) But you know, the call of the blood is strong!

The links to the church interiors are appreciated. Byzantine church architecture and decoration contribute mightily, especially when coupled with the Divine Liturgy of +John Chrysostomos, to an other worldly sense in worshippers. As +Vladimir's envoys to Constantinople reported when they returned to Kiev, "We knew not whether we were in heaven or on earth!" My belief is that this experience is what lies at the base of the Orthodox conviction of the timelessness of the Faith as Holy Tradition has given it to us, both in theology and praxis.


43 posted on 08/18/2006 9:54:13 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
But you know, the call of the blood is strong!

I can definitely relate to that given that I am 3/4 Italian and have lived in Italy. There is a very strong pull.

44 posted on 08/18/2006 10:30:13 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ELS; Kolokotronis

The mosaics at Ravenna are some of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. Ravenna, in fact, is a remarkable place, with its connection with Dante, the beautiful church that is now mostly underwater, etc...and the great food, for those more earthly minded among us.


45 posted on 08/18/2006 11:16:57 AM PDT by livius
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To: Kolokotronis
Byzantine church architecture and decoration contribute mightily, especially when coupled with the Divine Liturgy

multimedia interaction/participation ... what is old is new, again.

46 posted on 08/18/2006 11:49:21 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: murphE
The infallible definition does not specify that Our Lady died.

Absolutely correct. Pope Pius did not wish to dogmatize either position, but kept the definition neutral out of deference to both traditions.

47 posted on 08/18/2006 1:04:24 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Rhadaghast

"Also if she were without original sin; than she would neither want nor need Christ's redemption in any form."

Correct. If she lived a sinless life, she would not need Christ, yet she called Him Savior. The whole idea doesn't square with Scripture.


48 posted on 08/18/2006 5:44:11 PM PDT by conservatative strategery
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To: conservatative strategery
Correct. If she lived a sinless life, she would not need Christ, yet she called Him Savior.

The person who pulls you out of the way of a speeding car before you are hit would be no less your savior than the doctor who performs the life saving surgery on you had that person not been there.

49 posted on 08/18/2006 7:43:29 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: ELS

Yes, Ravenna is definitely on our "to visit" list next time we're in Italy.


50 posted on 08/18/2006 7:48:57 PM PDT by Carolina
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To: murphE

And the point is?


51 posted on 08/18/2006 8:17:34 PM PDT by conservatative strategery
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To: conservatative strategery

The point is, of course Our Lord is Mary's savior.


52 posted on 08/18/2006 8:24:53 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE

Well, on that we can agree :)


53 posted on 08/18/2006 8:39:19 PM PDT by conservatative strategery
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