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To: NYer

The Tridentine Mass is a wonderful liturgy, but it only dates from 1570. That's only the day before yesterday in church history. If they want to be traditional, they should demand the readoption of the Divine Liturgy.


10 posted on 06/25/2006 8:40:32 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: stop_fascism

Uh, no. It's universal celebration in the Latin Church dates from that time, but for all intents and purposes, the Roman Missal dates from a time much before that. The Canon of the Mass (also known as Eucharistic Prayer I) dates from the time of St. Gregory the Great, and all the other elements of the so-called "Tridentine" Mass were in place by the end of the medieval period.


11 posted on 06/25/2006 9:07:04 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you wish to go to extremes, let it be in... patience, humility, & charity." -St. Philip Neri)
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To: stop_fascism

"The Tridentine Mass is a wonderful liturgy, but it only dates from 1570."

I have personally seen hand written copies of the Missale Romanum dated 300-400 years earlier virtually indistinguishable from the 1570 edition.


12 posted on 06/25/2006 9:32:20 AM PDT by rogator
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To: stop_fascism

WRONG. The Tridentine mass was the missal used in Rome, simpily made standard for most of the church, except for liturgies over 200 years old such as the Mozambaric, Gallacian and Dominican rites. Even the different rites in the West were more similar to each other then the Novus Ordo compared to the TLM. All the rites of the West(except one that used Slavonic) used Latin as its liturgical language, they all had similar rubrics such asd the priest facing the altar, they all had communion with one species, they all used the altar rails for communion, lay involvment in the sanctuary was not only unheard of, but it wasnt even contemplated.

As for the basis for the rite in the West, it goes back to the very eraly church, and codified by People Gregory the Great in the 500s. So it is as old as the Devine Liturgy.


37 posted on 06/25/2006 5:03:18 PM PDT by RFT1
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