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Painting in Sacred Blood (Veronica's Veil Re-discovered)
Catholic Exchange ^ | June 9, 2006 | Michael S. Rose

Posted on 06/09/2006 3:31:39 PM PDT by NYer

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Michael S. Rose is author of several books including Benedict XVI: The Man Who Was Ratzinger.
1 posted on 06/09/2006 3:31:44 PM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
MANOPPELLO - Sanctuary of the Holy Face
2 posted on 06/09/2006 3:37:03 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: Swordmaker; shroudie

Your experienced feedback ... thanks!


3 posted on 06/09/2006 3:38:57 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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The almost transparent white veil measures about 6-1/2 x 9-1/2 inches

Are we to assume this is a fragment of the original? That size is hardly a historically-accurate veil! More like a pocket-hankin.

4 posted on 06/09/2006 3:39:14 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I am a daughter of God, a child of the King, a holy fire burning with His love.)
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To: NYer
I expect a round of retesting.

I want to learn a little more about this.
5 posted on 06/09/2006 3:47:09 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: NYer

Amazing rediscovery. The fact that it is the same face as the Shroud of Turin adds to the credibility of both.


6 posted on 06/09/2006 3:49:10 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Also check out how the shroud matches the Vilnius divine mercy image:

http://www.mercyimages.com/#shroud

(Click the 28k or 56k Quicktime buttons)

7 posted on 06/09/2006 3:53:55 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Tax-chick
Are we to assume this is a fragment of the original? That size is hardly a historically-accurate veil! More like a pocket-hankin.

Maybe it works like minerals that form crystals (think rock candy or salt) - no matter how many times you subdivide it, the atomic lattice will produce the same shape (image).

8 posted on 06/09/2006 4:07:36 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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Are we to assume this is a fragment of the original? That size is hardly a historically-accurate veil! More like a pocket-hankin.

That is why I pinged freepers 'shroudie' and 'swordmaker', both expert authorities on the Shroud of Turin and all ancillary items.

9 posted on 06/09/2006 4:24:42 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

Great Post


10 posted on 06/09/2006 4:29:23 PM PDT by exdem2000
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To: Tax-chick

It's called Veronica's Veil for illiteration purposes only. It probably was more like a hankie that she offered to wipe Jesus's fave on the way to Calvary.


11 posted on 06/09/2006 4:31:25 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: NYer

The Crown of Thorns is exposed on Good Friday only at Notre Dame in Paris.


12 posted on 06/09/2006 4:32:48 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: monkapotamus; Tax-chick
Also check out how the shroud matches the Vilnius divine mercy image:

Because Faustina was not an artist, her spiritual director Father Sopocko took her to a local Vilnius artist named Eugene Kazimirowski, who painted this Image directly under Faustina’s supervision. Sadly remarking, “Lord, who will paint You as beautiful as you are” (Diary 313), Faustina had the artist change the face at least 10 times. Finally, Our Lord told Faustina that it was good enough - to leave it in the state it’s in. Just recently it was accidentally discovered at a prayer group in Arizona, that the face on this Image perfectly matched the one on the Holy Shroud of Turin. This restored Vilnius Image is the only Image painted under St. Faustina’s direction.

This beautiful Image is a reproduction of the original Vilnius Image of The Divine Mercy, and is the only Image painted under Sister Faustina's direction. Painted by Polish artist Eugene Kazimierowski in 1934, this Image fell into disrepair and was restored in 2003. This is the restored version of this Image.


13 posted on 06/09/2006 4:39:13 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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It's called Veronica's Veil for illiteration purposes only. It probably was more like a hankie that she offered to wipe Jesus's fave on the way to Calvary.

Good point! In fact, 'Veronica' was not her real name. The word 'veronica' translates into 'real icon'.

The person who wiped our Lord's brow was real as is the image left behind. Only the names have been changed ... to protect the innocent ;-)

14 posted on 06/09/2006 4:43:08 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer; Suzy Quzy; Tax-chick

I'm still waiting for the sola scriptura crowd to come along and explain that since this isn't specifically mentioned in the Bible it couldn't be real and call us idolators.


15 posted on 06/09/2006 4:51:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: NYer

The "Veronica's Veil" we are discussing.

16 posted on 06/09/2006 4:58:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Tax-chick
Are we to assume this is a fragment of the original? That size is hardly a historically-accurate veil! More like a pocket-hankin.

Analysis shows the cloth was cut down to fit in the frame when it was mounted...

17 posted on 06/09/2006 5:00:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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If you want on or off the Shroud of Turin Ping List, Freepmail me.


18 posted on 06/09/2006 5:17:03 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker

Unlike the Shroud of Turin, the reputed image is smaller than the original.


19 posted on 06/09/2006 5:21:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: wagglebee

It would not be unusual for this kind of miraculous sign to occur in that time frame. What Jesus would lament is people standing around fixating veneration on the sign. The bible doesn't report that kind of behavior with respect to any of His other miracles; the focus was all on Him.


20 posted on 06/09/2006 5:24:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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