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To: reductio

I said that Lefebvre died outside the Church; the four bishops he ordained are still alive. I don't know whether or not Lefebvre's soul is in hell. Only God knows that. But isn't ironic, though, that someone who preached that there is no salvation outside the Church, ended up dying outside the Church?


69 posted on 06/14/2006 4:42:18 AM PDT by steadfastconservative
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To: steadfastconservative
I said that Lefebvre died outside the Church; the four bishops he ordained are still alive.

I wrote too quickly, and so did you. I'll correct my error first, and then yours. Mine: of course they are still alive, my duh; I meant it to write it so as to refer to Lefebvre alone. Now for yours:

I don't know whether or not Lefebvre's soul is in hell.

Sure you do, if he really did die outside the Church.

But isn't ironic, though, that someone who preached that there is no salvation outside the Church, ended up dying outside the Church?

No. What is truly ironic is that the Church clearly teaches that there is no salvation outside the Church, yet when someone dies outside the Church, no one can make up their minds where they went. The question isn't so much whether he's in Hell. The question is rather whether he really died outside the Church. You seem certain of some things you perhaps ought not be, but then seem unsure of others which are of themselves quite sure.

73 posted on 06/14/2006 7:26:23 AM PDT by reductio
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